I would prefer Balance. Simply because with Ninja and Bard, our damage goes to 1 * 1.2 Voiced Foe * 1.1 TA * 1.2 from RS * 1.05 from Enochian. That's a total of 1.6632 multiplier. If you have an extended Balance (15%) That card is actually 24.948% for a total of 191.268% damage boost. So a F4 that is usually 504 Potency (260 Potency * 1.8 from Astral Fire III), you have spam nuke spells of 963.99072 Potency.
Right now I can hit for 12k my Fire IV without Astro if I crit. With Balance empowered, I'd be close to 14k per spell.
Spell Speed is nice but I would prefer an extra damage boost from my 20 seconds opener over making it quicker. Also, if you are asked to Balance another job than BLM, he is a complete idiot. BLM has the highest opener burst atm. The closest I saw was Machinist and that's to take account the Machinist didn't provide me Foe and I was still doing more burst. People may argue about this but to me it's obvious a Balance card that isn't on a BLM is a wasted card for a raid DPS parse. This is also why I dislike Astrologian so much; Astrologian mainly buffs 1 person. The buff will be better on your best DPS. If you were in a group with the best DRG in the world and an average BLM, the most logical action would be to give that Balance card to the Dragoon.
Also, I don't think you are derailing the conversation. Astrologian support does include us, BLMs.
Weren't you a Midlander? I can't help it. Needs everything possible to beat A4S x.xQuote:
Originally Posted by SaucepanKaoz
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08-21-2015, 09:23 AMAikaal
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08-21-2015, 09:51 AMSaucepanKaozNope, never was. I just don't look very elezen i guessQuote:
Originally Posted by Aikaal
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08-21-2015, 10:08 AMAikaalCurrently iLevel 206. Didn't upgrade my chest yet. Didn't get thew pants yet either. Get to my level bro :[Quote:
Originally Posted by SaucepanKaoz
I'm missing Pants from A3S and Chest + Weapon from A4S xD I get 1450 DPS 4mins parses now. -
08-21-2015, 10:21 AMSaucepanKaozI'd rather be 205 with the pants =/Quote:
Originally Posted by Aikaal
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08-21-2015, 02:48 PMNeophyter
Got bored and decided to crunch some numbers. Here's what I came up with so far. Some of these formulas have been established before.
Average Spell Damage = (Potency * INT * (WD / 25 + 1) * ((DET - 218) / 5946.91 + 1) / 891 * Buffs
Cast Speed = Base Cast Speed * (1 - (Spell Speed - 354) * 0.1515 / 1000
Crit % = (Crit Hit Rate - 354) * 0.0233 + 4.9511233
Crit Damage = (Crit Hit Rate - 354) * 0.000233 + 1.448361
DET Damage = [(DET rating - 218) / 5946.91] + 1
Buffs include Magick and Mend II, Astral Fire stacks, etc.
Here's the spreadsheet if you want to play around with it.
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08-21-2015, 03:02 PMOneWingedSora
Only got 1 drop since week 1, the rest I got from tokens + sand/oil. Though even at i198, I did 1182 on A1S this week(though I did get some lucky crits), it seems BLM will definitely be the best job on A1S for speedruns and pushing before 0.5 comes out. I wouldn't be surprised if the fastest speedrun comp was 2x BLM, 1 Brd and a DRG. I was above 2k after a minute xD
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08-21-2015, 05:31 PMHaroldSaxonYou missed the point I was making. I was saying the minimum rotation we have to do in ice phase is B3, F3. If we get a slow mana tick, we are limited by time - but getting more spellspeed means that we can weave another spell in there as well as F3 (because you can "pre-cast" F3 just before the tick. Which is a dps increase because you are getting back into the phase quicker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenitan
If you get lucky with your timings and get a quick mana tick, you are still going to be in ice phase longer than required in order to complete the single B4. If Thunder ends up being a DPS increase to use in that phase, then spellspeed is going to shorten your effective Ice Phase time.
Also, there is a 4th rotation if i'm being pedantic - B3, Filler, B4, F3.
In all of the rotation cases, if you get a quick mana tick, you are in the phase longer than you need to be for mana reasons. If you get a slow tick, then 3/4 will still gain because 3+2.5+1 is larger than 6. Puro quantified the DPS increase in his last spreadsheet, you can go take a look at how he did it.
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08-21-2015, 05:33 PMHaroldSaxonPiety is not worth it.Quote:
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08-21-2015, 07:36 PMWalielRather Elezen than Lalafell if you ask me. Also, can I have your stuff? No caster loot this week, either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aikaal
My math-fu isn't the strongest, but that seems quite a lot lower than DRG, BRD, MCH, which is DET/7290+1 or 74(?) for 1% increase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neophyter
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08-21-2015, 09:24 PMStouterTaruIt's very tight to fight a proc into the next phase after using B4, the only time it's feasible is on Faust.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon
Ignoring procs, Thunder is about 2/3 of the dps of the entire rotation, so it beats waiting 1/3 of a GCD. That means a GCD of ~2.05 seconds before there's a chance that it can be the same dps occasionally.
Blizzard is around 55% of the full rotation dps, so it would beat out waiting for more than 45% of a GCD. That takes a GCD of ~1.95 seconds to rarely not lower dps.