The Ninja Superthread

I don't even have amazing latency anymore. T11 pls.
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Originally Posted by Deithwen

I am perfectly aware or this, but I don't have the time nor all the information about this.

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Breakdown for zeta stats can be found here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...e_need/cows48q

At least, that's the best listing I've seen. Maybe someone else has something more definitive.

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Originally Posted by Deithwen

I am perfectly aware or this, but I don\\'t have the time nor all the information about this.
Also this wouldn\\'t change the results anyway since the weights gap is larger than 0.226.
If you have that information I\\'d be glad that you share it with me ^^ to be to be honest, if you get two sets with 0.226 difference because of one crit, you\\'d better consider them equal since the DPS difference would impossible to judge ^^ With Det things would be different since it\\'s a direct increase not relying on RNG, but in case of crit it\\'s a whole different story. In theory one would be superior, but not in practice ^^

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Does not matter if the end result would change or not, falsifying numerical data and saying it\\'s correct because you are too lazy to go look for the information (food and zeta weapon stats) does not make it okay. You also do not consider them equal in this situation a difference of .226 is a difference. When calculating .

When calculating* BIS you are calculating weights, not real world application, there is a difference

Does anyone have BIS for non-zeta and non-crafted build?

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Originally Posted by Ephier

Does not matter if the end result would change or not, falsifying numerical data and saying it\\'s correct because you are too lazy to go look for the information (food and zeta weapon stats) does not make it okay. You also do not consider them equal in this situation a difference of .226 is a difference. When calculating .

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I am not "too lazy" to look for them, I created my progam last summer for novus stats at the begining and updated a few days agao. All of it during my spare time and I wanted to share it on a good will. Now I have included the food I can update it for Zeta stats calibration and what I meant by 1 crit difference is that I don't think it would change the outcome since the last I gave here is probably the best. I'll update my program but to be sure of that though.
And you don't have to be so condescending to me.

Use this Relic Builder if you want precise Zeta Builds.

http://bitsmaine.org/ffxivrelic/

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Originally Posted by Dervy

Use this Relic Builder if you want precise Zeta Builds.

http://bitsmaine.org/ffxivrelic/

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Thank you ! :)

Ehhhhhhh, no. I'll update them later on (DRG's DET is still 0.327 for example, not 0.316). I posted them there as I needed to copy paste another set of weights I wanted to make a comparison with and I had too many spreadsheets open, so I just posted them there for the time being lmao. I'm busy working on A LOT of things atm, so I apologise if it caused a bit of confusion :P

The only difference in weights really for jobs is the decrease in SS weighting, that's about it (excluding Bard)


EDIT:
Here's something interesting for you Ninja's out there. I've been following this guys blog for a while now and I've read through pretty much everything (with shitty google translator lmao). http://ku-so.hatenadiary.jp/entry/2015/01/02/122726

If you scroll down, he talks about Fuma vs. Ration. His conclusion is this, if I've read it correctly:

If there's no vulnerability debuff (TA), use Ration

If you've just used TA or there's a vulnerability debuff, use Fuma

If there's Foes Requiem, use Ration.

Due to how shit google translate is, I can't tell whether or not he said to use Fuma or Ration with TA + Foes, I'm leaning towards the former. So yah, Firana is correct in a way with his Fuma Opener.

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Originally Posted by amaezing

Does anyone have BIS for non-zeta and non-crafted build?

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You can use ffxiv.ariyala.com for that, just put the new weights into the BiS solver and you'll get it. The only reason ariyala can't calculate the "real" non-crafted BiS is because it doesn't take individual zeta builds into account.