Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

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Originally Posted by siverstorm

I'll take a crack at it tonight.

My gear: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PSPV

Dervy, you were saying people with low skill speed should see an minor increase life surging chaos thrust if it comes up at that point correct?

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yes, this is correct. It is better to use it for chaos thrust if it comes off of CD (this should happen 1/3 of the time), than it is to wait an additional 10 seconds for your nest full thrust.

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Originally Posted by Gh0st_Pr0digy

is 381 skillspeed too much to test it with?

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Yeah. Mainly looking at 341-355 range here.

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Originally Posted by Dervy

Yeah. Mainly looking at 341-355 range here.

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maybe t10 will drop the neck this week(lol yea right) and i can get a twine soon then i could test

EDIT: anyone got advice/tips/tricks for t10 - 13? this will be the first week im raiding back on dragoon

I do not play DRG as a main but I was wondering if someone had a nice looking gearset handy (ariyala or JP xivtools) for crafted and non-crafted DRGs.
I'm curious about what you guys oggle over and dream of if you had the luck, money, or time!
I appreciate any gearsets you're passionate about really, and am most interested in the highest stat weighted sets or what you feel is a great set available currently.

In the future i may switch over to DRG from MNK, but dragon kick and my more consistent play as MNK is more valuable in raid until the end of patch.
Thank you again, see you around!

Oh boy.

Non-Crafted

BiS ilvl135 @ 535 Accuracy/T13 - Highest DPS on paper
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OTNT

BiS ilvl135 @ 535 Accuracy/T13 - 410 Determination (recommended)
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OTNX

Crafted

Absolute BiS:
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/P9DR

A well balanced set:
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PAAG

Best Cost:DPS ratio
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PAF8

The last two sets are what everyone should be aiming for. The Absolute BiS is too ridiculous for people to even bother try obtain and the Cost per DPS gained is absolutely shit.

Thank you so much!
I love having these on a notepad for reference and i really appreciate it.

haha, fortunately i do main a str melee so i have the fortune of having the crafted accessories... and the pentamelded head for shits and giggles.
The gains are absolutely terrible. I do have to admit that it feels good to look [back] at how hard you worked for the pieces as they serve as a small reminder.
Or it could be complete nightmare where a much-too-high number sticks out like a sore thumb in your head.


Just wanted to add a comment although it already occurs to most of you guys:
The raids have different accuracy requirements, so feel free to downsize on your accuracy gearsets (or make more) for the different turns/primals!
I only say this because most people stick to their t9/t13 sets and don't really look back anymore, especially when things are being farmed now,
but I don't believe it's too much extra work in order to get a slight extra out of the gear sitting in inventory. :((( it's like neglected old barbies or transformers toys man.

Thanks again.

I've checked EMX's spreadsheet, and I think I figured out a reason the value it gives for skill speed is significantly higher than I expected: it models DoT clipping as "you clipped it? NO LAST TICK FOR YOU".

Because it assumes the last tick of Chaos Thrust is already lost as soon as you hit 342, it doesn't model the increasing--albeit minuscule--likelihood of losing a tick with more skill speed.

(Yes, messing with this does mean different BiS... unless you were going for the Black Truffle, in which case nothing changed.)

I guess you pointed your fingers on what I was trying to figure out? :P

I'm not going for any of the sets I posted. I will not be BiS optimised, unless I blow another 10m on earrings.

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Originally Posted by Dervy

I guess you pointed your fingers on what I was trying to figure out? :P

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My personal spreadsheet models (which I'm about ready to scrap due to their relative inflexibility...) don't model DoTs that way, and I was just curious what he did.