£130 =/= $130

That quote doesn't make much sense tbh.

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Originally Posted by Adelard

You folks have got to watch this. It made my day. That guy's laugh is contagious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP0B2fyAtb8

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Even though im annoyed at the price, this made me laugh lol

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Originally Posted by Kuroyasha

As to the reason the SE store does not allow UK players to use the Euro to make purchases is because it isn't our (i.e the UK's) currency so for them to do so would mean they would be breaking the law. So no its isn't a breach of EU law it is in fact the absolute opposite.

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Not quite sure where you are getting that from? I've had numerous dealings with various large online suppliers on mainland Europe and have always paid in Euros without issue or hassle. As I stated from the start, the issue isn't the price so much, I agree in that they can set it to whatever want. The issue is that they have precisely the same item selling from precisely the same EU store (And shipped from the Midlands in the UK no less) that forces a UK customer to pay a massively inflated price with no alternative option available. This is indisputable price discrimination, a subject that is very explicitly covered under EU consumer law. The big question is whether or not licensed software is covered under this law as I've effectively paid £129 for the rights to play a game, the CE goodies will likely be considered free extras irrespective of the cost.

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Originally Posted by Moqi

That quote doesn't make much sense tbh.

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Seconded. And even the non-quoted part makes little sense.

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Originally Posted by Kuroyasha

Wanna know why they did it? Too many lalafells in the UK.

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The product should have been localised accordingly and scaled down in size and cost much less then ;)

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To quote from another comment on another site: "To begin I AM british. Secondly the reason there is a huge difference between euro price and Sterling price is because although we (being the UK) are a member of the EU we did not join the Euro. We kept our own currency with its own value. The reason for this is essentially because the UK borrows a lot of money which if we had joined the Euro (the currency) we would not have been able to do because the Euro has a lot of different rules about how much of it can be borrowed by countries that adopt the currency. Indeed the EU likely wouldn't have allowed us to join the Euro currency in all likelihood even if we had wanted to for that very reason.

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OK, so it's a fiction piece.

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Originally Posted by Kuroyasha

As to the reason the SE store does not allow UK players to use the Euro to make purchases is because it isn't our (i.e the UK's) currency so for them to do so would mean they would be breaking the law. So no its isn't a breach of EU law it is in fact the absolute opposite.

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We can go to amazon.de and purchase things in Euros for shipping to the UK. They made a conscious decision to limit stock to their own store knowing this fact, because other retailers DO NOT prevent you ordering if you aren't in the same country. You can quite happily order from amazon.de and be billed in Euros for delivery to the UK. It's fine for them to have an EU store and a UK store, the issue as far as I understand it is the region locking on both stores, as since the UK is as part of the EU, so it should be up to us which one we purchase from.

But failing lifting the restrictions on UK users shopping at the EU store, simply setting reasonable and comparable prices for each store (as they do on just about every other product on the store) would also go some way to restoring my faith.

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Originally Posted by Kuroyasha

Now don't get me wrong no one likes paying more, but there ARE reasons why that that is the case."

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Yes, because some companies use highly unethical business practices and decide the extra ka-ching is worth the cost of losing some good will. They are clearly using the principle of "what the market will bear", meaning however much they think they can get away with and still meet their sales expectations. Well, people are within their rights to just passively accept this, and even go so far as to actively defend it. Plenty of examples of that, so I'm sure it will sell out regardless, but don't be surprised when the UK price of a 4.0 CE boxed edition is marked up to 200% or 300% the price other markets pay.

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To quote from another comment on another site: "To begin I AM british. <snip>

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Failed at the very start.

In case you missed it:

http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/...ticle20_en.pdf

Enjoy.

I was never planning on buying the collectors edition but this is still disgraceful. It is strange that SE acknowledges the difference in price with every other version except the boxed collectors.

for clarities sake I looked at the price point of the standard pc and collectors download versions.

Standard - $40 - £30 ----- 75%

Collectors DL - $60 - £45 ----- 75%

So with this information SE states that the difference between the pound and the dollar is 25% when also taking into account VAT, therefore the boxed collectors edition should be priced accordingly.

Boxed Collectors - $130 - £97.5 (£99.99)

But it isn't, which makes no sense and only creates a bad image of Square. The only minute reason I can think of is the uk may tax statues / models higher than everywhere else, but no where near enough to justify 30 quid per head, it's an absolute joke. Some sort of statement on this at least is needed because no company can expect to pull this sort of bullshit and have the fan base take it with a grain of salt.

Well, it sucks, but I got advice back. SE are allowed to refuse a sale, on any grounds they choose, so refusing to sell to us in € is totally legal.

On the other hand, Wesley Yin-Poole from Eurogamer said he'd like to report on this, the more gaming sites that report on it, the more likely we'll actually get a reply from SE.

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Originally Posted by Shaone

Seconded. And even the non-quoted part makes little sense.

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I was on mobile and couldn't elaborate much but you did it for me. It's absolutely not illegal for UK stores to accept payment in €, what kind of bs lol. I've bought food, clothes and games while I was in London with €, I have always paid Amazon UK in € and had stuff delivered to Italy without having me redirected to Amazon IT. It's pretty common for EU nations that don't use € to accept it anyway.

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They are clearly using the principle of "what the market will bear", meaning however much they think they can get away with and still meet their sales expectations.

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Nailed it. It all started with 2 extra retainers...

So... when are we joining the euro? ;)

(yes I know there's more to consider than just game prices & questionable company practices like this)

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Originally Posted by Lexxuk

The UK is an EU nation, we're a member of the European Union.

We deal with SE Europe, other wise it would be an SE Japan only issue.

We don't know, that is the question we're asking, if SE are breaking the law by preventing us from buying from the Eurozone.

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I know UK is an EU Nation... -_-

But USA is not in EU Nation and peeps are comparing $ to £ and saying it is against EU ruling...

At most £ against € since you are dealing with SE Europe and not SE America

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Well, it sucks, but I got advice back. SE are allowed to refuse a sale, on any grounds they choose, so refusing to sell to us in € is totally legal.

On the other hand, Wesley Yin-Poole from Eurogamer said he'd like to report on this, the more gaming sites that report on it, the more likely we'll actually get a reply from SE.

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That sucks....

Don't just ask SE... go ask other companies like Konami where they are selling $1 to £1 too for collector's but I highly doubt we will get an answer as it is their discretion to set whatever the price is :(