This is sad.

Keep you head up Yoshi-P. Your(&team) game is killer and will win the race. You all have work hard and it shows. Don't the few spoiled apples in the pile ruin your experience of this great success.

Haters are going to hate. And I believe they are just people jealous of this MMO being the best there is right now, on the market, and they will say anything to bring negative press.

Server loads.... cant log in... SO silly and immature logging in ti Japan Servers just to insult and try to crash them as well.


I apologize for the ignorance that is North America.

You enjoy your Launch, drink plenty of sake for me. And keep that head up, your product is unmatched at the moment and the gaming world will see that soon enough


PEACE OUT!!

As it has been stated many times before, every game that launches will have issues. Server congestion, log in errors whatever. Personally I think the team here has been doing a fantastic job to try to ease server loads and correct whatever other issues they can. There is nothing unexpected or abnormal really going on, things will be fixed and corrected in due time. *nods*

I'm with the others here rooting the team on and wanting to apologize for how NA users have acted. :<

Geez is this going to be our new 2.0 community? Kinda depressing.

if you guys played EA / Phase4 and are now on NA/EU worlds, I would strongly suggest giving Yoshida and team a helping hand at launch to get other people to play by not logging in for the week.

This will give new players a chance to try it out and be a little more patient with the idea of possibly facing log-in issues after getting to actually play for a few days instead of being blocked on day1.


So let's see your support for this situation: Do not log into the game if you where EA/phase4.

Sad is selling a game to customers and then not allowing them play it.

Criminal, actually, according to US Law.

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Geez is this going to be our new 2.0 community? Kinda depressing.

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Nah, once SE starts charging and subsequently locking out accounts that don't pay the whiners will be mostly gone.

No one is complaining about the game. They are complaining about not being able to play the game. AT ALL. The 1017 error is a serious issue and it's absolutely sad the moment JP gets the same stuff we have been seeing for 4 days, they IMMEDIATELY get "We're working on fixing it! SORRY!" Yet, everyone in NA/EU gets to suck hind tit and just deal with the issues.

Almost three full days of these Login issues is completely unacceptable. I love the game, when I get to fucking play it, but it's almost to the point of no return for them.

OP pretty much sums up how I feel about the way this community has treated Yoshi and the other guys at Square Enix. Cut them some damn slack.

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Originally Posted by Rustyhagun

Keep you head up Yoshi-P. Your(&team) game is killer and will win the race. You all have work hard and it shows. Don't the few spoiled apples in the pile ruin your experience of this great success.

Haters are going to hate. And I believe they are just people jealous of this MMO being the best there is right now, on the market, and they will say anything to bring negative press.

Server loads.... cant log in... SO silly and immature logging in ti Japan Servers just to insult and try to crash them as well.


I apologize for the ignorance that is North America.

You enjoy your Launch, drink plenty of sake for me. And keep that head up, your product is unmatched at the moment and the gaming world will see that soon enough


PEACE OUT!!

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^^This. A thousand times, this.

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Why do people think SE is worthy of so much respect? They just follow the trend of other massive and shitty game companies. They are designing their games for graphics over gameplay and story as apparent in FF13 and then continue to shove FF13 sequels down everyone's throats, FF14 1.0 failed terribly, they keep pushing games onto ipads and phones, most of their best games in recent years were remastered ports. This game is just another generic mmo but with chocobos and moogles, SE hasn't done anything so great in a long time that they deserve complete loyalty when the game fails to work. If we're being entitled then so are SE, they think they can just keep taking our money without putting out any products of excellence so we have earned a right to complain I think.

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Yep. Its an awesome game, when it works. But giving 25 servers to a tiny island nation, and only 25 more to the rest of the world is about the stupidest thing ive ever come across... ever.

The amount of Japanese gamers who A) play FF, and B) play MMO's cant fill those 25 servers. Squee knew how many preorders were sold. They had no excuse to say "oh, we didnt know..."
They had to know.

Most people do need to suck it up and realize that they just got to be patient. I know the team is working real hard at whatever it is they need to do to iron out the kinks and I'll be continuing my support. I'm not denying it's frustrating, and I'm not denying that it warrants complaints, but some of the vitriol has been downright awful and undeserving. Period. I don't pretend to know what's going on at SE.

However, those "white knights" that are apt to extremely defend this game are being just as arrogant and haughty as the "unwashed masses". It's not a good look and for a community that was supposedly painted as a polite & helpful bunch. I know now that it was just a hollow veneer. When mixed with an actual and more widespread player base suddenly the lot of you are up in arms and it's awful watching some of you stoop as low as the "scum" you claim to be above.

It IS sad. I'm so disappointed with both camps.

As a US citizen I am ashame how people act in and out the gamming community, but you got to remember that not all of us are like this. I even fell in love the game even as 1.0 after the ui lag fix because the crafting. Now I fell in love with it even more now what Yoshi has plan for this game. I mean come on the golden saucer, how can you say no to that, or the mounts that look like the ones from FF III or just the other stuff he has in mind for the game. I really looking forward to all this. I know I can't always log into my character on US server, but I will be paitent. I love this game.

The only thing sad I see is this constant trash talk against Americans. I guess that's how kids in other countries make themselves feel cool now. Congratulations, you're a bigot.

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Yep. Its an awesome game, when it works. But giving 25 servers to a tiny island nation, and only 25 more to the rest of the world is about the stupidest thing ive ever come across... ever.

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The United States alone is about 2.5 times more populous than Japan.

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Originally Posted by Godshelp

To everyone that instantly calls "White Knight!" on supporters... if we're all white knights for SUPPORTING developers that are pouring their passion into this game and it makes us look bad.. then what should we do? Stop calling "White Knight" on anyone that has faith in the game and wants to support, seriously.

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You're going through the same as when most of us who didn't play 1.0 are painted with the "sissy whiny crybaby entitled" bunch. I have gotten nothing but contempt reading these threads from a lot of legacy players. Do they equate to all of them? No, but here's some shining examples from another thread:

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First page of this thread: Everybody shits on OP because he's rude and ignorant. So much win.

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The fact that you and 11 other people feel the same way you do is pathetic. Take your sorry attitude along with your "friends" and please leave. Is this your first MMO launch? You and your friends obviously have no idea what you're talking about. If the excuse to not play is because they couldn't play on early access, then I'm sorry but you need a much better reason.

These are the people you get when you cater to them: impatient and childish idiots. Go ruin some other game. We don't need your crap here.

Oh, and thanks for yet another useless thread.

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Wrong, what I'll never forget is the lack of education, etiquette and respect people like you have. I've never seen such a huge amount of insufferable people dumping their accumulated hatred on such an insignificant part of life (a video game.) Everyone here since Saturday is entitled to receive the advertised services (a smooth gaming experience), but the way people like you are approaching it is completely wrong; and if you think you are at least 1% right, I sure hope you don't work in a place that has to deal with the public. Karma really is a bitch (and a good teacher too).

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So basically as a new 1.0 player, the attitude I've been getting from the forums is that if I complain loud enough I'm told to just get a refund and GTFO.

Well?

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No one is saying to leave, maybe a few, but none of us here said "GTFO."

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You just contradicted yourself. The posts telling people to leave the game are there. There's no use denying it.

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The thread you used as an example is a terrible one where support is imminent, someone who is whining that there are issues within a week of launch and then complain 24/7 on forums. SE is working on it and with a bit of support + Constructive Criticism, we'll create a better game all around, including server work.

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Totally agree with the support and constructive criticism, but the issues still remain and people are still going to complain about it. The thread is terrible yes, but let's not pretend it doesn't discredit some of the problems that ARE prevalent right now. If I wanted to use another (less terrible?) post to pull more of these attitudes from, I easily could.

Yes it is shameful the way the community has laid on the hate in the last couple of days, but its also shameful for a company with SE's reputation to provide us with such a pitiful amount of details on the situation.. Sorry if it offends but from the lack of info on when/where and what is going on/going to be resolved, there concern to the rest of the population outside there island just seems a bit lackluster at best.

Its unfortunate really and I don't put all the blame solely on Yoshi or anyone else in particular ,its just a sad series of events that everyone just has to deal with. When confronted with these types of situation ppl do tend to get worked upped, and some get vocal. Its all just a very shitty situation in which no one wins.

Except the AFK'ers Who are infact the bottom of the barrel in this community. Login restrictions were placed so that when ppl had to stop for work/school/sleep they were suppose to log out so someone else could have there spot, but in the end a buncha @$$hats decided to afk, screwing others out of there spot, by EXPLOITING the fact that theres no idle kick! IMO anyone who Idled for more that 6 hours straight should receive 180 day ban. Whats the point of being logged in if you don't move or chat for 6 hours?!?!?!?!?!

Yoshida's team are the kind that will scope out the community for feedback to improve the game. Japanese take critique very seriously. Making vile comments for a Western game might be tolerated, but for the Japanese, it can take the soul out of them.

If you have critique, fine, but play nice. You can be nice and still be stern. Offer suggestions with your critique. For example:

Incorrect: "1017 AGAIN !~!?@~!@ You spent 3 years on this crap??"
Correct: "Instead of the 1017 error due to the login restrictions, perhaps arrange us in a queue? Maybe you can have a Final Fantasy trivia slideshow or minigame for people to pass the time. Another idea would be to place people in a random dungeon instance with Duty Finder until the server queue is up."

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I think we should flood the English Forum with GOOD threads, show the team how supportive we are of them. Also, if we do this, DO NOT answer or reply to any people who want to fight. Just keep posting good things!

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Normally I would support a notion like that. When there was official confirmation about the length of open beta and early access the result was pages and pages of people complaining. It became annoying since it was a "what's done is done" type deal and I wanted to see people suck it up and move on. These login limitations are a much more severe issue that affects thousands of players each and every day and will continue to do so until specific action is taken. For some players the login limitation isn't even the most upsetting part. It's the lack of reassurance SE has delivered promising that they are spending every hour of every day trying to resolve this matter as soon as absolutely possible. I've been a supporter of this game from the very beginning and I know I will continue to play for years to come, but this is the most frustrated I have ever been with this game.

The whole team my heart goes to. You guys have worked flat out for years to make up for something that is considered a mistake by many.
You've made it this far and i'll continue to support se and the FFXIV ARR team well into the future.

/o/ Devs! Please give Yoshi-P a hug for me! The feels those tears caused!

This isn't my first MMO. It's a far from perfect launch. But the game is amazing so I will stand by and support it.

Ya this is 2013, stuff like this should not be happening anymore. Only reason anything like this would happen now in days, is piss more planning on the dev team and everyone wants to say they are working "around the clock", everyone wants to make you feel "Sorry for them". They fucked up period, no need for anyone to feel "sorry for them". I'm sure there working hard but this could off all been prevented with "proper planning". They bragged about have over 1 mil people in beta and yet they still have so little servers? Explain that to me yoshi lovers.

I wish I could have all you white knights as my boss, that way once I screw up something and cost you a ton of money, we can just say I worked hard and i'm sad that it happened, and just drop it from there.

God people suck lol the post above me, prime example. The game is great, and so is the in-game community I play with which doesn't bitch bitch bitch....

While I can understand the pain of the people on the NA/EU servers and how terrible it is not to play.

Shit happens.

If you work in IT or any electronics based company you would know that it doesn't matter how hard you work at something or how well you prepare, there will always be issues.

SE has done there very best and if you played in 1.0 and than into beta you would see how much they have worked.

There are few gaming companies that have shown the dedications that SE has and they do not deserve some of the hateful and bigoted remarks they have got.


I am not a fan boy, I am not a white knight for SE though I play PLD. I am a human just like them.

I agree some people are obviously going overboard with the insults and complaints.....typical of kids. However, this company needs to be giving updates (more than an apology) on what they are doing or hope to do to fix this mess. We haven't heard much from them, much less seen any types of actions being taken especially now since it's launch day. They need to do something with their PR people and give the NA/ EU kiddos some information. I'd be fine if I knew what was in the works and when we can expect results.

I know its been said by others, time and time again, but I felt like putting in my "two cents". Yes, the current situation of a majority of us not being able to log in is very unfortunate! Do I think that SE could have taken more steps to prevent and alleviate the issue? Yes I do. Do I think that we as a community are taking our rage entirely too far? Abso friggin lutely. I'm not going to be one of these users who say to ragers, "Good, don't play, we don't need you here anyway." I would like to say to the ragers, I understand your frustration, I honestly do. But childishly attacking people like we have been is no way to voice our concerns. They will make it right, it may take a while, but it will get there. If you're like me, and believe that ARR is a game worth playing, then have a little patience. Its OKAY to be upset, but to be childish... Come on guys.

Okay, I get that maybe some criticism is warranted.

But there's constructive criticism, and then there's... God knows what kind of shameful vitriol that's been going on these last few days. It's almost enough to make one lose faith in humanity.

To those who have made constructive criticism, I applaud you. For the rest, if you're gonna criticize, for God's sakes people, at least have some class instead of crying 'Ruined Forever'.

To Yoshi-P and the Dev team, have a rest. You guys have earned it.

There is probably a reason the que system inst working for players trying to log in, a simple clairvoyant explanation on why it isn't working, and what there plan is for the issue moving forward. All they have done so far is apologize(which i greatly appreciate, and never expected, i even went to gamerescape to sign and send a Thank you to Yoshi P/Devs) and say that there temporary solution is login restrictions. I honestly cant assume they are going to sit on there hands until people give up and stop trying to play, they want as many customers as they can get, so they must be working on a solution to relieve server congestion.

They could have a solution(ie purchasing more servers etc.) but they are still in the middle of working on that process(negotiating on price, etc.). All i want is for them to say what they are hoping to do for a solution even if that solution is yet to be final, the simple acknowledgement that they arnt just sitting on there hands and waiting for people to quit the game is there solution(which i think is obserd to assume) and that if we could be patient all will be right in the world of Eorzea in due time.

Who honestly looks back at games and are really pissed about server outages? It's just a temporary rage and people need to calm the eff down.

Diablo 3 had error 37 or whatever but ultimately, who is mad about that? (rather than the game being awful)

There was even a thread where someone was like "TOR had a perfect launch." Like, dude. No it didn't. All that thread showed is that people forget about this sort of stuff down the line.

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Keep you head up Yoshi-P. Your(&team) game is killer and will win the race. You all have work hard and it shows. Don't the few spoiled apples in the pile ruin your experience of this great success.

Haters are going to hate. And I believe they are just people jealous of this MMO being the best there is right now, on the market, and they will say anything to bring negative press...

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Unmatched? You're kidding right? If you like the game, by all means support it. But don't spew this bullshit about how this is the best MMO because it's not. It's funny how you tell people, "It just launched of course it's going to have bugs!" then call it the best MMO out there when, again, IT JUST LAUNCHED. I'm enjoying the game but I'm not blind to it's flaws. This is by far the stupidest post I've read. I just don't get how you can all it the best when it absolutely brings nothing new to MMOs.

He wasn't crying when he took my pre-order money and he wasn't crying when he took my subscription money. While the adolescent tone of some of the posts are annoying, fact of the matter is i am paying for a service i can't use. While in the long run i'm sure it will all work out, copy pasted lists of locked servers, which is pretty darn near all of them by now, does not equal community relations.

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I did buy the pre-order willing to play the Early Access. Even with the numbers of sells and the control of how many keys from early access were redeemed and registered, SE failed to give us what they promise when announced the pre-order: "Buy now and you'll be able to play before the launch".

On the whole early access period, i could log in 3 times. One time i got stucked with a 90000 error (same thing from phases 3 and 4 BETA) as soon as i logged in. On the second time, i got stucked in the game 'cause i couldn't join instanced quests, not being able to progress on main quest and unlock other jobs and access to other cities. Yesterday, luckly (as i can presume from a quick read on the forums), I logged in and played for about 3 hours until being discced on a loading screen. Today, the launch day, i can't even log on game or join a queue to join the server Behemoth, where my friends are trying to play too.

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I'm not satisfied. I payed for a game and for an early access that i didn't have and still don't have right now. The game is a well designed game, with nice graphics and gameplay, but SE failed hard with the basic infrastructure part: hardware.

There are some unbelievable things that is unacceptable comming from SE, company with a 6 years experience with its previous mmo-rpg:

1. 6 years of Final Fantasy XI and couldn't estimate based on sells numbers the needs of the physical part of the game;
2. No queue system. Instead of being put on a queue with your position and ETA on the wait time, we simply receive a message saying the server is full;
3. No boot system. People are 24/48/72 hours connected to the server, going to work and school letting their toons afk on the city, and not getting idlekicked;
4. Webpage with a poor interface and a really bad customer service. We don't even know where to open tickets. Even if we know, God knows when we gonna have a reply.

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All these things made me very upset and made me loss all the hope i had in a quick problems fix. As I cannot find things on the confuse square account page, I want to know where can I ask for a refund.

Square Enix, I know you don't give a damn about us and don't read the forums, but WHERE CAN I ASK FOR A F'ING REFUND? Because you didn't give me what I paid you for and i want a refund.

So many drama queens and kings, hope none of you are like this without the internet, i feel sorry for your friends and family.

As much as I love the game and all of the Final Fantasy games the truth is this was a failed launch for the NA/EU players. All day I've been hearing my friends gets 1017 errors and our friends that just got the game today can not roll our our server to play because it's locked (I'm on a Legacy server because I couldn't move to a less populated new server and keep my 1.0 character).

I know what they did with v2.0 is short of a miracle and I have full faith that in the upcoming weeks they will get all these issues resolved, but the NA/EU community does have a valid reason for their complaints. They paid their money for a great experience and they got less than that. Do some of them sound like they are entitled asshats, sure, but you can't get away from that in any community.

I dont think it's his fault. He and his team made a great game. They simply choose a bad place to host the servers. I blame them nameless company in Montreal ..

No more crying Yoshi :( We love you and It's not your fault /sad

I think Yoshi has done an amazing job with this game. I'm guessing the game would have felt like even more of an improvement if I would have had the chance to play 1.0, but regardless the game is great enough that it is worth the wait. I really want to see this game succeed, as I know Yoshi and his team have put their very hearts and souls into making this game something amazing.

On the side of the community, I know not everyone agrees with this, and nothing I would be able to say would be able to change people's minds. Unfortunate as it may be, people are entitled to their opinions, I just wish some of the community would communicate them in a more civilized manner. Really tired of the bickering and foul language both in game and out.

LMAO at you white knight hypocrites. Your the true cancer in gaming. http://static1.fjcdn.com/comments/45...3cf694ecd.jpeg