SE is always SE... Rage inside... :/

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Originally Posted by Faiyez

It also said players with active accounts would be invited and that turned out to be inaccurate.

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Did it say all players with active accounts would be invited?

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Originally Posted by Faiyez

It also said players with active accounts would be invited and that turned out to be inaccurate.

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No, they said you needed an active FFXIV account to be able to apply. They did not say you needed to be active. Obviously they said you need to have the time to test tho, I remember reading that in the application.

I have no problem with SE getting players who quit in the beta or something more polished to show them the progress first hand... it really bothers me they are letting people who's accounts have been inactive for years to get into alpha. It just does not make any sense to do.

Alpha should be comprised of the die hard fans mainly, those who will not rage about something being incomplete or broken. I only hope it is a good mix of new and old, but getting in people who rage quit the game long ago is only going to get the game blasted on forums.

People will not care about the NDA, if a person who hated 1.0 hates the glitches or bugs in 2.0 Alpha it will be all over the forums that 2.0 will fail because of X reason. And even if the logical person knows it is only alpha.... it will increase the size of the mountain XIV has to claim to have a successful release.

I do not think anyone here knows everyone who got invited or the spread between active and Non-active(those who have not played in the last year), but I hope SE done the right thing.

Excuse me, does it say somewhere that they will stop sending alpha test invitations per mail this week? It's still tomorrow left. I for one are gonna chill my pants down and try to cheer up even if i too wanted an invitation first.

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Originally Posted by Joji

Excuse me, does it say somewhere that they will stop sending alpha test invitations per mail this week? It's still tomorrow left. I for one are gonna chill my pants down and try to cheer up even if i too wanted an invitation first.

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They mentioned in a post that all the mails have been sent out for this phase and that if we didn't get one (by now) that there were more tests coming up in the future.

Extremely safe to say that if you don't have one now, you haven't gotten in but don't be disheartened^^

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Originally Posted by whoopeeragon

But then to bring it to attention on the OFFICIAL FORUMS? Which means that you've been in contact with people who breach NDA and hereby signifying that maybe you won't be a person who will also follow NDA? Meaning that you'll get less of a chance to get into alpha testing?

Maybe I'm the only one who sees the irony in this.

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You have failed to realize the criteria in place to select alpha testers. Which is basically they don't give a damn.

Some of you really have no idea of how to tell between what's reasonable and what's unreasonable.

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Originally Posted by Dannythm

In all the alphas/betas I've been in, the NDA included that you cannot tell ANYONE not in public nor in private that you are a tester. Not even the people who lives with you.

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Or else WHAT?

Internet, srs buisness?

Fucking come on!

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Originally Posted by Faiyez

Or else WHAT?

Internet, srs buisness?

Fucking come on!

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There many men in black around us /nod

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Originally Posted by Faiyez

Or else WHAT?

Internet, srs buisness?

Fucking come on!

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If you've been found to spread any information they can kick you out of the test.

You need to chill, I know you're mad because you didn't get in, hell there's a lot of narked people but seriously it's not the be-all-end-all.

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Originally Posted by Nix

They mentioned in a post that all the mails have been sent out for this phase and that if we didn't get one (by now) that there were more tests coming up in the future.

Extremely safe to say that if you don't have one now, you haven't gotten in but don't be disheartened^^

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can you provide a link of this since it must have passed my house?

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Originally Posted by Nix

They mentioned in a post that all the mails have been sent out for this phase and that if we didn't get one (by now) that there were more tests coming up in the future.

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Could you please link to that post? Or do you mean the original Lodestone / Twitter message?

Just wondering, because someone somewhere wrote about getting an invite 30 mins ago.

Edit: Nevermind, that was when they had checked their e-mail. :p

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

it really bothers me they are letting people who's accounts have been inactive for years to get into alpha. It just does not make any sense to do.

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Considering that you need an active paying account to apply to the alpha, what you said is literally impossible.

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Alpha should be comprised of the die hard fans mainly, those who will not rage about something being incomplete or broken.

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alpha should be comprised of whoever the fk fits what SE is looking for, and ffs nobody rages harder than "die hard fans".

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Originally Posted by Faiyez

Some of you really have no idea of how to tell between what's reasonable and what's unreasonable.

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You are on the top of that list.

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Originally Posted by Joji

can you provide a link of this since it must have passed my house?

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I'll scout real fast for you, might take a minute!

Fast edit, lodestone mainpage:

We have recently begun sending notification e-mails to players accepted as alpha testers for FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn. For those who do not receive an acceptance notification this time, fear not! There will be need to fortify our ranks as time goes on, so your chance to take up arms in battle may come yet.



SE's mailer system is pretty awesome and this went up a few hours ago. Those who haven't received emails now won't until a later test D:

Well that surely didn't take long lol.......Starlord knows our people

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Originally Posted by Faiyez

You have failed to realize the criteria in place to select alpha testers. Which is basically they don't give a damn.

Some of you really have no idea of how to tell between what's reasonable and what's unreasonable.

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But you have this information in the alpha registration page:

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Disclosure of Proprietary Information

As stated in the “FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Tester Agreement,” testers are prohibited from publicizing any proprietary information related to the Alpha Test on external sites. In the event that we confirm that infringement has occurred, your rights to be a tester will be revoked and your FINAL FANTASY XIV account will be suspended.

We will announce if and when Alpha Test-related details can be publicized, so please take great care in their handling until they have been made public. For feedback and discussions between testers, please use the dedicated tester forum, which will open at a later date.

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Criteria to select alpha testers is based on what you put into alpha, but NDA enbreachments extend past all of that. There are penalties as such, which have been outlined. If you want to take the risk, so be it. It's not mine to judge whether you see it as reasonable or unreasonable to risk your FFXIV account.

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Originally Posted by Taika

Could you please link to that post? Or do you mean the original Lodestone / Twitter message?

Just wondering, because someone somewhere wrote about getting an invite 30 mins ago.

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Sorry pumpkin, lodestone mainpage! If invites are still going out I'll totally eat my socks (and they're really nice socks too :( )
But don't be holding your breath just incase^^;

The wording doesn't explicitly say they're done, but it does sound very much like it D:

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Originally Posted by Aenarion

Considering that you need an active paying account to apply to the alpha, what you said is literally impossible.

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This is not true, actually. I have a friend who was able to apply to the Alpha without an active XIV account. She had played the game before but her XIV account was closed when she applied (and still is). I've read people like this receiving invites from several sources and I don't have any reason to believe it wouldn't be true.

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Originally Posted by Aenarion

Considering that you need an active paying account to apply to the alpha, what you said is literally impossible.



alpha should be comprised of whoever the fk fits what SE is looking for, and ffs nobody rages harder than "die hard fans".




You are on the top of that list.

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Fans Rage but want the game to succeed and are up to date on changes and planned changes. Those who are not fans rage and could care less if the game succeed, they are the ones who have the mentality that there is no chance for the game. They are the ones wanting to see the changes to prove the game has improved. There is a major difference, while fans rage the hardest at times, the dmg done by non-fans raging is alot worse they give less chances.

Have to remember most people in the Na are not use to Alpha test, they are use to playable demos pre release(most company's call them beta). Just saying if SE runs this as a true alpha test and not a demo bad things can happen.

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Originally Posted by Nix

Sorry pumpkin, lodestone mainpage! If invites are still going out I'll totally eat my socks (and they're really nice socks too :( )
But don't be holding your breath just incase^^;

The wording doesn't explicitly say they're done, but it does sound very much like it D:

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Yeah, after you added the edit I wanted to point out that it's rather non-finite, even if it does certainly allude to a conclusive "we've sent them all out". People will still hold onto any shred of hope they can though.

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Originally Posted by Nix

I'll scout real fast for you, might take a minute!

Fast edit, lodestone mainpage:

We have recently begun sending notification e-mails to players accepted as alpha testers for FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn. For those who do not receive an acceptance notification this time, fear not! There will be need to fortify our ranks as time goes on, so your chance to take up arms in battle may come yet.



SE's mailer system is pretty awesome and this went up a few hours ago. Those who haven't received emails now won't until a later test D:

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Thank you Nix.
Well, can't say i'm not dissapointed. But it's not the end of the world either. It's just like a lottery, you wanna win but rarely or never do. XD

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Originally Posted by Taika

This is not true, actually. I have a friend who was able to apply to the Alpha without an active XIV account. She had played the game before but her XIV account was closed when she applied (and still is). I've read people like this receiving invites from several sources and I don't have any reason to believe it wouldn't be true.

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THIS IS WHY I HAVE OPENED THIS THREAD.

Ohh, so it seems that i'm not the only one in contact with ppl that got an invitation with inactive account.

We'll i suppose that they're all trolling us. :P

I just want clarification if this is a bug, working as intended, or anything else now.

Glad to help^^ I hope you guys get lucky in the future!

/Yawn, gotta love Mondays

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Originally Posted by CakeBandit

/Yawn, gotta love Mondays

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Indeed.

SE has a nasty tendency to do nothing but say sorry to me the past two years. I believe my next one is coming up. "Sorry you didn't get an invite." "Sorry the End of Era event was disastrous." The list goes on, lol.

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

THIS IS WHY I HAVE OPENED THIS THREAD.

Ohh, so it seems that i'm not the only one in contact with ppl that got an invitation with inactive account.

We'll i suppose that they're all trolling us. :P

I just want clarification if this is a bug, working as intended, or anything else now.

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Its working as intended. This is a testing phase, not a demo.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

Feedback from players who quit after the first month is more precious than feedback from players who stayed until the end.

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OMG LOL

Because?

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

THIS IS WHY I HAVE OPENED THIS THREAD.

Ohh, so it seems that i'm not the only one in contact with ppl that got an invitation with inactive account.

We'll i suppose that they're all trolling us. :P

I just want clarification if this is a bug, working as intended, or anything else now.

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Same, just got off the phone with a friend of mine who basically quit after the first free month after launch (although he had been playing since closed Alpha, one of the first testers). He came back once about a year later and I helped PL him up a few before he was gone again, lasted about a month or two. And he just got another invite to this Alpha. So yeah, invites have nothing to do with whether or not you've been supporting/playing XIV over these past two years.. in fact it seems as if that actually hurts your chances. I guess in their eyes, they already have our support so they don't think we'll rage that much (or for too long) if they overlook us for early access to the unfinished ARR.

To anyone that's disappointed they didn't receive an invite, just understand you aren't missing out on terribly much. I know that's not much consolation since some really really want to get in there and make a character to try things out, but you'll get there eventually. Alpha doesn't last very long, they'll be inviting more into it soon anyway and before you know it we'll be in open beta. Honestly, most of you wanting in would get bored by the limited nature of the alpha gameplay once you got done making your character and killing a couple of monsters.

Not trying to sound high and mighty, just saying it like it really is.

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Originally Posted by Faiyez

OMG LOL

Because?

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A lot of current players (not all) will be very complacent with how things are, and those who left/stopped playing are more likely to be critical and point out flaws that others would ignore.

also CAPS LOCK FOR EMPHASIS

You could repay him by sharing his char name so he gets booted lol. Just some vengeful thoughts I had if I were you hahahah.

Hey we all will just have to use the waiting skills we have honed over the last 2 years and wait for beta. It sucks I know but hey what can you do?

lmao, oh well, we're going to play it eventually, hopefully, Alpha, Beta or full version... so, meh.

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Originally Posted by Exn

I guess in their eyes, they already have our support so they don't think we'll rage that much (or for too long) if they overlook us for early access to the unfinished ARR.

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This sums up so well the problem with so many people here.

You're not applying for "early access" to the game, it's fine if that's your aim, but as far as I'm concerned you can gtfo if you expect sympathies from others because you weren't picked.

Alpha is for test, testing, and more testing, it's not for you to go and play.

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Originally Posted by Exn

Same, just got off the phone with a friend of mine who basically quit after the first free month after launch (although he had been playing since closed Alpha, one of the first testers). He came back once about a year later and I helped PL him up a few before he was gone again, lasted about a month or two. And he just got another invite to this Alpha. So yeah, invites have nothing to do with whether or not you've been supporting/playing XIV over these past two years.. in fact it seems as if that actually hurts your chances. I guess in their eyes, they already have our support so they don't think we'll rage that much (or for too long) if they overlook us for early access to the unfinished ARR.

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All they have to do is to release a video in the next days with bad grass or too much jumping people, or bland sky boxes or too much bouncing dragons, and the forums will stop ragging about this.

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Originally Posted by whoopeeragon

Nowhere do I see "Players who have achieved a substantial amount of progression in FINAL FANTASY XIV will be guaranteed a spot in alpha testing when global invites are distributed." Whether you dedicated to FFXIV or not has no impact on your standings for alpha testing in FFXIV: ARR.

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Look at the players who got chosen, inactive accounts and all. How many of them do you think actually bothered to even read the NDA?

People need to understand that people wont get much playtime in Alpha, chances are they run on a rather stringent scheduel and picked the first wave from availabillity if anything. The phase the Alpha is going into more than likely is "Warm bodies test" to check out how the server handles connections from around the world and larger numbers.

imagine if Coca Cola handled its taste testing like this, there would be riots in the streets, but that Nu Coke might actually taste good.

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Originally Posted by Faiyez

Look at the players who got chosen, inactive accounts and all. How many of them do you think actually bothered to even read the NDA?

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I'm sure you can enlighten us all on the numbers of "inactives" that got picked for alpha vs the "actives" that got picked for alpha right?

I mean, there's no way you are just pulling **** out of your arse right? :rolleyes:

Go ahead, we're waiting with abated breath.

Iirc, Yoshi said that he whould be trying to get current players inside alpha asap, didnt he? So he ends up changing minds and inviting ppl that didnt care at all about it? lol...

Tbh i sent in my alpha invitation 2 days after my account was locked due to not paying it, i was worried because i though it whouldnt be considered but since i've been hearing that ppl with inactive accounts got in, i feel much better.

I'm sure that they mostly picked ppl with alot of time to test, and good pc specs (i recently bough a pc just for XIV testing, altho i cant modify my alpha registration, and at that time had an awful pc lol... Guess i'll have to wait and hopefully enter sometime soon.

Here's a old post of mine when i panic~ed about signing up with an inactive account:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...%29-successful

It didnt give any error while sending it out, so i think its up till 1 month of inactive that starts to affect it maybe.

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Originally Posted by Aenarion

I'm sure you can enlighten us all on the numbers of "inactives" that got picked for alpha vs the "actives" that got picked for alpha right?

I mean, there's no way you are just pulling **** out of your arse right? :rolleyes:

Go ahead, we're waiting with abated breath.

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/edgeofmyseaaaaat

The people whining about not getting in are mostly the people that would not report even one bug if they got in anyway. They are just seeing it as an easy access method to check out the game.