Petition to fix Miqo'te Face 2 Eyebrows

Guys, don't forget! The devs are also just people. :'X

So hard to fix such stuff...please understand!

(And no, I won’t be giving constructive feedback here anymore after seeing hours of discussion deleted several times recently.)

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Originally Posted by Valence

Do you think the eyebrows will be fixed before 2027 when 8.0 supposedly releases?

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One can hope. :(

Bump. It would be VERY nice to be able to play the game without wanting to hide half my character's face.

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Originally Posted by Heavenchild

Guys, don't forget! The devs are also just people. :'X

So hard to fix such stuff...please understand!

(And no, I won’t be giving constructive feedback here anymore after seeing hours of discussion deleted several times recently.)

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Woah, there are actual mods in this place? :^O

Bump! For eyebrow justice!

I would raise an eyebrow about this issue not being solved, but it feels kind of rude to me, because as long as all eyebrows look the same kind of è.é for face 2 Miqo'te, they cannot do that gesture themselves.

Can someone with functional eyebrows raise one for us please?

Well, we could raise an eyebrow, but with most of our brow options, it may give you nightmares...

View at your own risk:

https://i.imgur.com/6aiJs7F.png

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Originally Posted by Tahli

Well, we could raise an eyebrow, but with most of our brow options, it may give you nightmares...

View at your own risk:

https://i.imgur.com/6aiJs7F.png

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I stared into the abyss and the abyss stared back or something.

we can easily recreate the angry eyebrow meme °`-´°

..and i don't like

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Originally Posted by wynnaura

we can easily recreate the angry eyebrow meme °`-´°

..and i don't like

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°`-´°

or è.é I suppose

Another comparison of Type 2 Eyebrows, sorry the older picture's not the best quality. I originally took this screenshot of one of the FEW Moon Keeper Miqo'te I could find on The First, but she also happens to be a Face 2.

The older face has this curious, slightly friendly look. But the new one, even if it's higher resolution, just look so... mean. :(

https://i.imgur.com/Nnu25pH.png https://i.imgur.com/yDdz2Hk.png

I cannot fathom how anyone could think that these are the same face.

I was checking the Endwalker benchmark that I still have, and while the eyebrows of both Seekers and Keepers are the same in both DT benchmarks and current DT, I came to the realization that they were not identical before that.

https://i.imgur.com/b8YNRnY.gif


It's not a huge difference, but it's enough that I can notice how the Seeker's shape was used as the base for the first round of updated graphics, and not the Keeper's. The Seeker's are a bit shorter, thicker, more blunt rather than finely tapered, and the tail is slightly higher set. Those differences must've been exaggerated when they decided on the shape of the Benchmark 1.0 brows.
It still doesn't change the fact that the current eyebrows are incredibly messed up, even with that in mind, though. But feels bad that Moon Keepers got left behind again.

The battle continues against the absurdly plucked eyebrows!

Hey folks a new patch is coming, any bets?

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Originally Posted by Valence

Hey folks a new patch is coming, any bets?

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If these eyebrows actually get fixed next patch I'll give them money by buying something from the online store lol.

I made an edit over a screenshot to try to show what the original, preferred eyebrow shape would look like on the newer graphics. It's using Eyebrows #2 as the example. What do others think?


https://i.imgur.com/wMI1ckt.gif

(Alternative image host if anyone has trouble viewing the above picture)

https://i.postimg.cc/Jhp68sVP/brow-edit-please.gif

The current eyebrows were unusable to even distort, I had to redraw the eyebrows from scratch.

I plan on getting a fantasia (hoping for another freebie) but the eyebrows will be the first thing I check, sadly.

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Originally Posted by Tahli

I made an edit over a screenshot to try to show what the original, preferred eyebrow shape would look like on the newer graphics. It's using Eyebrows #2 as the example. What do others think?

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I think it looks super clean, great job with the edit!

Currently not subbed, i'm sure the last patch fixed it, right?

Right?

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Originally Posted by Metool42

Currently not subbed, i'm sure the last patch fixed it, right?

Right?

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Nope... :(

I used the one edit I made to make edits of all eyebrow options for this face.


https://i.postimg.cc/NYKNyfrs/Timeline-1-0002.png

(With comparison .gif)

https://i.postimg.cc/MqmMYVCS/Brow-Edits.gif

If no one's opposed, I may add this into the first post so it's clear what exactly we're asking for, and what we hope to see in future updates.

Now that I'm looking at those, I kinda realize I miss the old, messier, more natural eyelashes.

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Originally Posted by Valence

Now that I'm looking at those, I kinda realize I miss the old, messier, more natural eyelashes.

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Same. The eyebrows are the worst part, but there are also noticeable changes with the eyelashes, lashline, and upper eyelid crease.

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Originally Posted by Tahli

Same. The eyebrows are the worst part, but there are also noticeable changes with the eyelashes, lashline, and upper eyelid crease.

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I can forgive inaccuracies at that level such as the eyelashes, that they warned us before the graphic update and getting a perfect 1 to 1 wasn't guaranteed. But the eyebrows, that's just sloppy, I don't know how we came to get that.

edit: fixed typo

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Originally Posted by Valence

I can forgive inaccuracies at that level such as the eyebrows, that they warned us before the graphic update and getting a perfect 1 to 1 wasn't guaranteed. But the eyebrows, that's just sloppy, I don't know how we came to get that.

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I imagine you meant eyelashes, yeah...

Bumping this!

For anyone that hasn't yet seen, here's what my edit of the eyebrows (type 2) look on top of other edits to the face!
And here's the link to my post in the general Graphics Update thread thas goes into a lot more detail. I worked my tail off putting all that together. x.x


https://i.postimg.cc/y8c2TNYF/All-Co...ine-1-0002.png https://i.postimg.cc/W1Z6FFpW/All-Combined-Edits.png

I really hope they don't consider the current fixes "good enough!" as I'm still waiting for my au'ra's eyes and lips to be fixed, at least the current bug of her upper eyelids not lowering properly that they added in a patch... This face at the very minimum needs these horrid drawn on angry lines fixed, options don't even matter as they all look the same now, can't fathom how this was considered ok at launch.

Pleaase please fix this, we need the old good, realistic eyebrows and eyelashes, and lips

I miss my rhombus eyes (forgot which face options i got) and the old confused emote
https://i.imgur.com/avtPRYu.png

Bump! Really hoping we see some improvement by next patch!


And a big thank you to everyone who has supported the petition in any way so far. :) I so want to see a conclusion where we can all happily post pictures of our Miqos looking leagues better with some updates.

I dont see a difference, least nothing notable. I'm sorry, but this is a non-issue.

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Originally Posted by DaKitten

I dont see a difference, least nothing notable. I'm sorry, but this is a non-issue.

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It's alright to have your own view, though clearly many other people would disagree with you here. I'd suggest taking a closer look at animated comparisons posted on the previous page.

If you aren't one of the many people familiar with this face and upset at how different this feature looks now, then you may also not even notice if it was updated like we've been asking for, and you'd not be upset by that change either. So it'd be a win-win!

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Originally Posted by Tahli

https://i.postimg.cc/y8c2TNYF/All-Co...ine-1-0002.png https://i.postimg.cc/W1Z6FFpW/All-Combined-Edits.png

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I reeaaally like your edits and that you also softened the forehead marks! These were really soft.. kinda subtle before DT and the prominent ones were the marks on the cheeks.. but since the DT graphic update those forehead marks are just like ..opaque!

To be honest Miqo'te really need dragging up to date as they have always had pencil thin eyebrows that have gotten worse with the update, I agree but overall they are really outdated pencil thin and look bad.

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Originally Posted by wynnaura

I reeaaally like your edits and that you also softened the forehead marks! These were really soft.. kinda subtle before DT and the prominent ones were the marks on the cheeks.. but since the DT graphic update those forehead marks are just like ..opaque!

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Thank you! The face did have a really nice visual flow that became all askew with the DT update.

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Originally Posted by Luluna

To be honest Miqo'te really need dragging up to date as they have always had pencil thin eyebrows that have gotten worse with the update, I agree but overall they are really outdated pencil thin and look bad.

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For faces 1 and 3 especially, I agree. That's honestly one of the reasons I picked face 2 when I started the game, the eyebrows looked fuller and natural and brought the face together.

Yoshida please do something it hurts being permanently stuck like that. Try it in real life, only vulcans can achieve it harmlessly.

If someone were to shave the top half of their actual eyebrows, in an angry diagonal slant, then take an eyebrow pencil and fill in what remained to be extra solid and dark, I can guarantee you that people who know them would notice right away. Even strangers would give them weird looks.

It's an awful thing to be stuck in that state, with ALL brow options being like that and absolutely no in-between, unlike the variety we used to have. Please fix this in 7.4...