Square Enix and Crypto

I can't express how smooth-brained this take is.

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Originally Posted by Ezzeloharr

I can't express how smooth-brained this take is.

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I cant believe youre using smooth brain unironically

You know... I had never posted here before. But I had to come here to say something about this letter.

This letter is deeply unsettling. It sounds like Square Enix is 100% ready to get into a ship that barely anyone understands and those that do say it's a scam (and I agree). And there's also the fact that the letter treats people that "play to have fun" as a subset of the consumer base. Dude... We all play to have fun. If the people that make money out of games don't have fun, they are in the wrong business.
I already had a friend come over to me and say that he would not be trying out FFXIV after this letter. So, this letter alone is already hurting this game (and certainly other Square Enix games as well).

In the best case scenario, this letter was put out there just to please investors/shareholders, but that is still wrong. These are the words of someone that is totally out of touch with the consumer — I believe that is the most worrisome thing. And let me tell you... No investor/shareholder will be pleased if your company once again gets on the verge of bankruptcy because it's out of touch with the consumer.

Two things:

"However, we do observe examples here and there of overheated trading in NFT-based digital goods with somewhat speculative overtones, regardless of the observed value of the content provided This, obviously, is not an ideal situation, but I expect to see an eventual right-sizing in digital goods deals as they become more commonplace among the general public, with the value of each available content corrected to their true estimated worth, and I look for them to become as familiar as dealings in physical goods."

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https://token.emusic.com/

There are NFTs (gods, what a stupid acronym - 'tokens' have been around for decades) that are not about cryptocurrency and do not require a million GPUs suddenly crying out in the void.

Then again, there's this to worry about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTMF6xEiAaY

That is definitely about NFTs in their worst in-game configuration, although the term "NFT" doesn't appear in the video.

Imagine thinking cryptos are good for the enviroment lmao.

I don't know how people are surprised about this, SE has always been like this: just another greedy corporation. For years we have seen the cash shop being milked with almost no reinvestment of said income to the game. Now we going just another step down the stairs. What amuses me the most is the people who was defending the cruise chaser mount being taken off the game and put behind a paywall now suddenly drawing a line on "not real" products being transactioned... lmao.

You get what you encourage people. As we say over my lands: "Cria cuervos y te sacaran los ojos" - "Rise crows and they will rip your eyes".

I can't do much about the NFT trend but I can choose to not financially support it however small that may be.

So after almost 9 years, I guess I'm finally done.

As long as they keep this out of FFXIV, I don't care what other games they poison with it, but if this pops up here, I'm gone. By the time they get to implementing this, other games I've been waiting for might near completion, and while I had intended to play them alongside XIV, I'll just leave.

If this is irrelevant for XIV, it doesn't matter to me at all.

If they want to implement this scum shite into crappy cash milking mobile games I'm fine.
The moment they decide to taint XIV and XVI or any other mainline FF we are going to have a problem.
The ethical environmental issue is a huge one as we enter a new environmental conscious company policy.
SE is against the environment with this decision but this is to be expected from money grabbing CEO's without any moral compass.
After all these people caused the environmental crisis and the future collapse of the climate.
I hope the scummy money laundering tech that surrounds blockchain and crypto currency dies the sooner.

If turn out to be profitable will stick around. If that happens eventually will be normalise and some will defend it. Already happened with other anti-consumer practices.

What I really want is for someone to tell me the difference between cryptocurrency and a Ponzi scheme.

Another thing to keep in mind is that, in FFXIV's case, I feel like the mogstation items are already at a level which is barely acceptable. I don't know any FFXIV players that know about the mogstation itens and don't see something wrong there. Most players don't care, but they know what the problems are. So, any attempts at further monetizing the game must be done with the utmost care. At this point, a single mistake would be enough to completely break the consumer's trust.

And, like I said before, this is what the problem boils down to. This isn't actually about NFTs or the metaverse or terms such as "play to contribute". This is about failing to understanding the consumer. This letter shows that the current president of Square Enix doesn't understand or at very least pretends not to understand the consumer. That's why this letter did so much damage, even though there were no actual annoucements in it.

But there's still time to correct course. I hope the reaction here and in other places make them realize this.

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Originally Posted by Bobby66

Can you really expect a company to leave profits on the table? To me this just seems like a new form of micro transactions we lost that battle and now blockchain/nft are the new battlefield. I for one am interested in seeing what they do, as everyone knows when it comes to investing you only put in what you are comfortable with losing, I am not sure why people call it a scam common sense is all you need to protect yourself. I for one am interested in seeing what they do with it.

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NFTs are a scam because they have no value. Literally none.

Let's say you go out and kill the evil Troll King ten times a day for two years to acquire the vanishingly rare Sword of Fiery Awesomeness +4. Once it finally drops, you have the rarest and most powerful sword in the game. Congratulations! So what good does that do you? Well, you can use it to kill more things faster and get more loot. You can wear it around town and show it off. You can sell it to someone else for in-game money/items or maybe for real-world money.

Now let's imagine that your Sword of Fiery Awesomeness +4 is an NFT. In what way is it better? Is it more prestigious? Can you do more stuff with it? Can you take it into a different game and use it there? Do you have some kind of legal right that exempts your new sword from all the EULA boilerplate about everything in the game belonging to AwfulGameCorp and you having no legal recourse if they ban you, lose your stuff, or shut down the game?

The fact that your sword is now an NFT is of exactly zero real value. It adds nothing at all. And that's because none of this is driven by a desire to make games better. It is driven by the desire to cash in on the latest tech buzzword-y bandwagon by shoehorning some irrelevant technology into their games.

You say you are interested to see what they might do with NFTs or blockchain. What might that be? I challenge you to come up with a single way that they might improve this game via blockchain or NFTs. Anything at all. What could they conceivably do to make the game better through NFTs or blockchain technology that they could not otherwise do?

I am not going to give my money over to a phone scammer or televangelist, but that doesn't mean I think they should be given free rein to scam others without recourse. That is doubly true if their scams have direct consequences for me and the things I enjoy (I don't know about you, but I'm not super thrilled to hear the president of a game company talk about their efforts to attract the vast untapped pool of potential players who are not incentivized to play games built for "people who 'play to have fun.'")

I am not going to cancel my sub because the president of SE released a letter gushing about the potential of NFT gaming, but I am going to make clear that I think it's disgusting and I hope that the collective blowback from outraged players is enough to get them to rethink this stupidity.

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Originally Posted by Kakure

NFTs are a scam because they have no value. Literally none.

Let's say you go out and kill the evil Troll King ten times a day for two years to acquire the vanishingly rare Sword of Fiery Awesomeness +4. Once it finally drops, you have the rarest and most powerful sword in the game. Congratulations! So what good does that do you? Well, you can use it to kill more things faster and get more loot. You can wear it around town and show it off. You can sell it to someone else for in-game money/items or maybe for real-world money.

Now let's imagine that your Sword of Fiery Awesomeness +4 is an NFT. In what way is it better? Is it more prestigious? Can you do more stuff with it? Can you take it into a different game and use it there? Do you have some kind of legal right that exempts your new sword from all the EULA boilerplate about everything in the game belonging to AwfulGameCorp and you having no legal recourse if they ban you, lose your stuff, or shut down the game?

The fact that your sword is now an NFT is of exactly zero real value. It adds nothing at all. And that's because none of this is driven by a desire to make games better. It is driven by the desire to cash in on the latest tech buzzword-y bandwagon by shoehorning some irrelevant technology into their games.

You say you are interested to see what they might do with NFTs or blockchain. What might that be? I challenge you to come up with a single way that they might improve this game via blockchain or NFTs. Anything at all. What could they conceivably do to make the game better through NFTs or blockchain technology that they could not otherwise do?

I am not going to give my money over to a phone scammer or televangelist, but that doesn't mean I think they should be given free rein to scam others without recourse. That is doubly true if their scams have direct consequences for me and the things I enjoy (I don't know about you, but I'm not super thrilled to hear the president of a game company talk about their efforts to attract the vast untapped pool of potential players who are not incentivized to play games built for "people who 'play to have fun.'")

I am not going to cancel my sub because the president of SE released a letter gushing about the potential of NFT gaming, but I am going to make clear that I think it's disgusting and I hope that the collective blowback from outraged players is enough to get them to rethink this stupidity.

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Value is based around what people are willing to pay for it. I have made a decent chunk of change selling NFT's people will pay if they feel it has value.

I just do not think it is my place to question what one feels has value or not.

I love FFXIV, have been playing since 1.0, and FFXI before that. However, like loot boxes NFTs are a hard line in the sand for me. I cannot get behind business practices like this and should SE opt to utilize NFTs I will quit XIV and not purchase another product from them as a company until the practice is ended, period.

There are some lines I just cannot support and I will vote with my wallet. It's a greedy practice and it must not be allowed to spread like the plague in video games.

Companies are getting bold with this stuff. Even cars creating more services you pay monthly for such as Toyota's remote start service. If we don't vote with our wallet it will not end with NFTs or loot boxes.

Gaming is a relaxing hobby that I acknowledge will have costs that come with it. NFTs would not be justifiable in my eyes though in a game or really, at all.

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Originally Posted by Bobby66

Value is based around what people are willing to pay for it. I have made a decent chunk of change selling NFT's people will pay if they feel it has value.

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Yes, but as Kakure challenged you to, can you provide any example how NFT technology would actually improve this game? "Making real Money" and turning a game we play to relax into some sort of job with financial incentives is not exactly a good use case that makes the game aspect of this game better.

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Originally Posted by ovIm

Yes, but as Kakure challenged you to, can you provide any example how NFT technology would actually improve this game? "Making real Money" and turning a game we play to relax into some sort of job with financial incentives is not exactly a good use case that makes the game aspect of this game better.

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I never said it would make the game better, I did say it was just another means like micro transactions to get extra money from the consumer. That was the relationship I said the share in the following post after that one. Thus I have no reason to provide an example as to how it would make the game better cause that was never my stance to begin with.

It does not have to make the game better per-se though on a personal level if they allow one to sell those NFT's that would personally increase my own enjoyment. So that is a plus.

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Originally Posted by Bobby66

Value is based around what people are willing to pay for it. I have made a decent chunk of change selling NFT's people will pay if they feel it has value.

I just do not think it is my place to question what one feels has value or not.

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No one anywhere has ever said "I know there are copies of this little cartoony ape sketch all over the internet and that anyone can freely use them for anything they want, but I value having my alphanumeric identifier atop the digital certificate associated with this one at... oh, about the price of a new house."

Those people bought NFTs from you for the same reason I presume you purchased them: to resell to someone else. It is all speculators buying from speculators buying from speculators hyping their speculation in hopes that their nonsense speculative investment appreciates.

If you chose to roll the dice and buy in to some vapid speculative silliness and you got out with more than you put in, good on you. I am genuinely glad for you. But I don't want that stuff anywhere near my games and "some other person somewhere might value it for reasons that I cannot explain or defend but don't feel I should be questioning" isn't going to move me out of the anti-NFT camp.

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Originally Posted by Bobby66

I never said it would make the game better, I did say it was just another means like micro transactions to get extra money from the consumer. That was the relationship I said the share in the following post after that one. Thus I have no reason to provide an example as to how it would make the game better cause that was never my stance to begin with.

It does not have to make the game better per-se though on a personal level if they allow one to sell those NFT's that would personally increase my own enjoyment. So that is a plus.

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You did say "I for one am interested in seeing what they do", though, hence the curiosity. However ->

It does not have to make the game better per-se

That is why everyone is against implementing any kind of NFT's into this game. Thank you very much for proving the point.

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Originally Posted by Kakure

NFTs are a scam because they have no value. Literally none.

Let's say you go out and kill the evil Troll King ten times a day for two years to acquire the vanishingly rare Sword of Fiery Awesomeness +4. Once it finally drops, you have the rarest and most powerful sword in the game. Congratulations! So what good does that do you? Well, you can use it to kill more things faster and get more loot. You can wear it around town and show it off. You can sell it to someone else for in-game money/items or maybe for real-world money.

Now let's imagine that your Sword of Fiery Awesomeness +4 is an NFT. In what way is it better? Is it more prestigious? Can you do more stuff with it? Can you take it into a different game and use it there? Do you have some kind of legal right that exempts your new sword from all the EULA boilerplate about everything in the game belonging to AwfulGameCorp and you having no legal recourse if they ban you, lose your stuff, or shut down the game?

The fact that your sword is now an NFT is of exactly zero real value. It adds nothing at all. And that's because none of this is driven by a desire to make games better. It is driven by the desire to cash in on the latest tech buzzword-y bandwagon by shoehorning some irrelevant technology into their games.

You say you are interested to see what they might do with NFTs or blockchain. What might that be? I challenge you to come up with a single way that they might improve this game via blockchain or NFTs. Anything at all. What could they conceivably do to make the game better through NFTs or blockchain technology that they could not otherwise do?

I am not going to give my money over to a phone scammer or televangelist, but that doesn't mean I think they should be given free rein to scam others without recourse. That is doubly true if their scams have direct consequences for me and the things I enjoy (I don't know about you, but I'm not super thrilled to hear the president of a game company talk about their efforts to attract the vast untapped pool of potential players who are not incentivized to play games built for "people who 'play to have fun.'")

I am not going to cancel my sub because the president of SE released a letter gushing about the potential of NFT gaming, but I am going to make clear that I think it's disgusting and I hope that the collective blowback from outraged players is enough to get them to rethink this stupidity.

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(This is entirely a joke response I am giving so do not try and take it seriously.)

Well if they decide to sell in-game land plots as NFT's, it might convince them to expand the housing plots enough that everyone can finally get a house!

(Again, joke. I'm 100% against this NFT nonsense. Just trying to lighten the mood.)

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Originally Posted by ovIm

Yes, but as Kakure challenged you to, can you provide any example how NFT technology would actually improve this game? "Making real Money" and turning a game we play to relax into some sort of job with financial incentives is not exactly a good use case that makes the game aspect of this game better.

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Bobby66 has no interest in if it makes the game or service better, its about whether or not they can make "real money" playing FFXIV with NFTs since that would increase their own personal enjoyment of the game.

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Originally Posted by Ranaku

I mean it's still something physical people will have and can enjoy for the rest of their life, they buy it once and then own it. The intention behind dolls and figures and whatever is to collect it. It has personal subjective value.

NFT is sold with the promise of making big money out of it, you don't buy into it cause you like stupid ape pics or something. There is no personal objective value behind owning a NFT. You don't look at it and say, yes this ape i am proud of owning. Same as you don't look at stockmarket shares and think to yourself that this has great artistic value. No you want to have that shit to sell it later for more than you got it for. But fact is the only safe money someone makes out of NFTs is the creator, everyone after this just plays the game of "The last one who holds the ape loses all his money!".

So idk where you graduated but you might want to exercise you brain again cause if it lets you compare physical art to a gambling system then you might wanna check up with your neurons again. Cause next they might let you drink bleach or let you buy into MLMs. And that might be something we both don't really want.

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You missed the point of my post.

Square Enix for YEARS has been using various tactics to money grub it's fans and I was pointing out that people only NOW are getting up in arms because NFTs have been involved and how late to the party everyone is.

Also, your daily reminder that the gacha games Square Enix puts out make more money than FFXIV will ever imagine.

But thanks for trying to insult my intelligence at the end there, really earning that 'Best Community 2022 Award'.

Stay classy.

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.de4217a2...pid=ImgRaw&r=0

Honestly I've not spent a lot of time reading about and trying to understand all the nuances and intricacies of crypto-currencies, blockchain, or NFTs. But I do understand what they are and represent, and I do not like reading what the SE president wrote in his latest letter.

Why? Because IMO games should entertain without including overly obvious hooks for profitability, such as excessive commercialization of its various shiny blings and/or services. I'm fine with many things that do exist in current games that require real monies to purchase, such as WoW tokens, costumes, mounts, minions, FFXIV equivalent buys, fantasias, retainer journeys, character and MSQ boosts, etc. I think those are fine because they essentially help players attain certain goals that maybe their skills or available game time will not allow them to get to. In addition they do not affect my own ability to enjoy the game, as they do not compete with me and other players directly in the game.

Introducing NFTs into the game, however, opens up a whole new can of worms. Making the game pay participants to produce content is, again IMO, changing its dynamics drastically. You'll have "players who just want to have fun" and then entrepreneurs who want to make an income "playing" the game. I can already envision sweat farms of hapless "players" strapped to their PCs all over the world slaving away 12-16 hours a day for greedy business entities wishing to benefit from such game payouts, producing all kinds of NFTs that SE would then resell to us the players who just want to have fun.

If that was the goal of game producers, why have they tried to ban gold farmers, and power leveling services, and other types of schemes requiring real money to purchase? I still remember when WoW would threaten to ban accounts that players would sell to one another once they'd leveled their characters to max levels. Some level of real-money products and services, as what the Mogstation has now, is OK - even as many players don't care for them and are against them. Making the game even more focused on hard cash revenue tightly connected to blings and additional services would eventually turn off many current players, myself included.

I hope this will not come to pass. FFXIV is a very nice, popular, and well-loved game, cherished by many of its legacy and new players. I hope it will stay that way, and don't think that NFTs will be beneficial to it staying that way. It will become a different kind of game, and will cater to a different genre of players if that's where SE will take it.

Something something bad fur planet...something something final days...something something smoking monkey. Y'all are getting mad at rich people and faux rich people wasting their money on a stupid fad.

The sooner nft's fade away the better

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Originally Posted by Kakure

No one anywhere has ever said "I know there are copies of this little cartoony ape sketch all over the internet and that anyone can freely use them for anything they want, but I value having my alphanumeric identifier atop the digital certificate associated with this one at... oh, about the price of a new house."

Those people bought NFTs from you for the same reason I presume you purchased them: to resell to someone else. It is all speculators buying from speculators buying from speculators hyping their speculation in hopes that their nonsense speculative investment appreciates.

If you chose to roll the dice and buy in to some vapid speculative silliness and you got out with more than you put in, good on you. I am genuinely glad for you. But I don't want that stuff anywhere near my games and "some other person somewhere might value it for reasons that I cannot explain or defend but don't feel I should be questioning" isn't going to move me out of the anti-NFT camp.

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That is generally what you do with them though, holding on to them is kinda silly tbh since the value is as you mentioned based around hype more so then genuine interest. Oh I am not trying to sway you one way or another, though I do not get why people call it a scam when if you practice common sense, do not put in more then what your are comfortable with lose and understand the inherit risk associated where does the scam come into play? In the end if a company wants to make profits off people that have more money then sense so be it that is life, and no different from pretty much every other company. In the end all you can do is voice your concerns, and hope it changes something, and if it does not all you can do is vote with your wallet.

I do think choices like this our individual opinion do not matter cause the minority if done right with the proper systems put in place would net some insane returns especially with IP’s that SE holds.

It is not for everyone that is 100% certain I agree with you on that.

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Originally Posted by ovIm

You did say "I for one am interested in seeing what they do", though, hence the curiosity. However ->

It does not have to make the game better per-se

That is why everyone is against implementing any kind of NFT's into this game. Thank you very much for proving the point.

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Well not everyone, though one can be interested in something does not mean I think it will be good for the game per-se. Still I would like to see what they do with them.

One thing is for sure: NFTs, cryptocurrencies and the like are far from a consensus. Even if you somehow like these things, you have to admit that not everyone likes them, far from it. This is a fact.

So, introducing such things to a beloved game or franchise... it's bound to fail. You'd be going against a very big chunk of your playerbase, from the most dedicated fans to the newest sprout. You could say that the profits in NFTs would compensate the loss in subs and other sources of revenue, but that's extremely unlikely (I'd say it's pretty much impossible).

That is to say... If you want to experiment with NFTs and the like, fine. You'll probably fail, but fine. Just remember to do it somewhere else, far from FFXIV or your other beloved games.

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Originally Posted by Thalesnm

One thing is for sure: NFTs, cryptocurrencies and the like are far from a consensus. Even if you somehow like these things, you have to admit that not everyone likes them, far from it. This is a fact.

So, introducing such things to a beloved game or franchise... it's bound to fail. You'd be going against a very big chunk of your playerbase, from the most dedicated fans to the newest sprout. You could say that the profits in NFTs would compensate the loss in subs and other sources of revenue, but that's extremely unlikely (I'd say it's pretty much impossible).

That is to say... If you want to experiment with NFTs and the like, fine. You'll probably fail, but fine. Just remember to do it somewhere else, far from FFXIV or your other beloved games.

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Tbh outside of some them doing something like tying playable content behind them I do not see the masses rallying behind the cause to vote with their wallets enough to off set what a small minority would put into the game. I mean wouldn’t the same sense of whales for micro transactions also apply for NFT’s?

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Originally Posted by Morphiana

I love FFXIV, have been playing since 1.0, and FFXI before that. However, like loot boxes NFTs are a hard line in the sand for me. I cannot get behind business practices like this and should SE opt to utilize NFTs I will quit XIV and not purchase another product from them as a company until the practice is ended, period.

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Too late. Time to cancel your subscription. They've been testing this for over a year, not with Final Fantasy XIV but with some of their mobile game properties.

I agree, I won't watch another corporation drown a beloved video game for money. It remains to be seen the extent of these plans, and if they are introduced in limited ways and as a secondary focus, I think that's fine. The problem comes when it starts to dilute the player experience and trades the quality of the game itself for more store items and microtransactions. FFXIV's continued roaring success is the one thing that kept WoW's chaotic shitstorm from crushing me, I won't be around to watch FFXIV become another laughing stock.

I am going to keep this short and sweet.

I love this game. No game has given me a story like this.

Obviously the parent company does not necessarily represent the views of the developers themselves. I'd like to think Yoshi-P wouldn't support this.

But if FF XIV starts actively using Crypto/NFT, I will not continue to play it.

I've already beaten Endwalker, I don't NEED to stick around for the ending anymore.

THis reminds me of one thing SE has said before. Everyone Kindlyforgot about it to.

*We won't remake FF7 until all of our Other FF games has sold as much as FF7*

They also canned a few of their mobile titles that had active communities so they could herd all of their fans into their new Gacha and battle Royale games. They have actively treated their devs like crap for years until VERY recently. Did we also forget this is the same company that Almost went BANK RUPT from being to prideful and thinking no one could top them. You all are literally playing the game that one man saved because of SE being the japanese version of EA. In the No Clip Documentary, Yoshi P himself said it was Hubris that almost ruined Square.

Idk how much more Evidence that SE has always been a really shiesty company a lot of people need, but if NFT is what woke you up. Please Remember Yoshi P and his Team are A singular group within the giant that is Square Enix. And Square Enix has always been about making as much money as possible.

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Originally Posted by strawberrycake

*We won't remake FF7 until all of our Other FF games has sold as much as FF7*

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Source? The only place the above appears during a search is the page here on the forums where you wrote it.

Your take on business practices reads a tad bitter. Care to share more than vague statements about why?

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Originally Posted by Conundrum

Crypto can't implode fast enough to satisfy me.

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Best comment ever.

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

Source? The only place the above appears during a search is the page here on the forums where you wrote it.

Your take on business practices reads a tad bitter. Care to share more than vague statements about why?

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It was a fairly long time ago, but back when they showed the FF7 Tech demo for Ps3, SE began flip flopping on if they were, or were not making the FF7 Remake, I specifically remember them saying they weren't remaking it until all their other FF titles were meeting the same amount of sales as FF7. This was also around the time they were going bankrupt.

And it's not bitterness, it's me seeing a billion dollar company for what it's worth. Yoshi P and his devs are most likely not going to be affected by anything NFT related. SE isn't dumb, they are infact a fairly smart company business wise, Currently at least, That being said it's fairly anti-consumer, knowing square they're gonna make a few one off games, or pump crypto and NFT into their mobile titles. Said titles will find an audience, and they'l milk them for all they can before said titles will suddenly have its service cut after a year or 2 and then SE will wash their hands of it and move on. It's always how they've been, Prime examples being thire list of IPs.

Square and Enix Seperately released a fair amount of major hit Titles, not limited to The Crono series, the Valkyrie Series, the Parasite eve series we also have the Star Ocean series. bad business choice, milked IPs, and bad direction marks all of these titles, and out of all of them The Crono Series has been religated to a mobile game. My point here is simple, and you can take it as bitterness if thats what you choose, but SE has a history of tossing aside what doesn't make them more money then FF, dipping their hands in anything that can be milked to pump more money into FF, no matter how sleazy it is. It's really shitty, and honestly unfair, when looking at the large amount of fans for those IPs mention, and just really horrible when looking at this company from a consumer PoV.

FFXIV is going so well because of Yoshi P not SE, and I find it hypocritical that they would Push NFT, which is helping in Depriving them of servers for the game, especially right before a major content release, is just down right disrespectful. Not to mention, from a human PoV, bad for the enviornment, and with Japan being plagued by a regular amount of Natural disasters, you think they would care a bit more.

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Originally Posted by strawberrycake

THis reminds me of one thing SE has said before. Everyone Kindlyforgot about it to.

*We won't remake FF7 until all of our Other FF games has sold as much as FF7*

They also canned a few of their mobile titles that had active communities so they could herd all of their fans into their new Gacha and battle Royale games. They have actively treated their devs like crap for years until VERY recently. Did we also forget this is the same company that Almost went BANK RUPT from being to prideful and thinking no one could top them. You all are literally playing the game that one man saved because of SE being the japanese version of EA. In the No Clip Documentary, Yoshi P himself said it was Hubris that almost ruined Square.

Idk how much more Evidence that SE has always been a really shiesty company a lot of people need, but if NFT is what woke you up. Please Remember Yoshi P and his Team are A singular group within the giant that is Square Enix. And Square Enix has always been about making as much money as possible.

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But here's the thing, right.... FFXIV is good now because the company changed. And this guy, this guy that wrote this letter, was a part of that change. He was the CFO at the time and he supported Yoshida. So there's hope.

The way I understand it but I am still unsure on this NFT thing is they want the money up front BEFORE making any more content and NFT is a way to facilitate this. I could be wrong though.

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Originally Posted by Thalesnm

But here's the thing, right.... FFXIV is good now because the company changed. And this guy, this guy that wrote this letter, was a part of that change. He was the CFO at the time and he supported Yoshida. So there's hope.

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What you're not seeing is that XIV won;t be touched, at least not in the way people are thinking, so if thats all you care about then you don't have to worry. As for him being the CFO at the time he did what he needed to do to keep his job. The best thing to do is not look at this with rose tinted glasses, Yoshi P is a good person who cares, the now CEO has to make a bottom line.

NFT and Crypto will only be in one off games that can milk whales with money they already throw away, the issue of SE baacking NFT and how this does involve XIV, just not in the way everyone is thinking, NFT is affecting the current semi-conductor shortage. XIV is suffering from it, you see how it's a bit of a smack to the face of XIV players. It's Hypocritical and Disrespectful to the dev team who are about to release new content, and the players who will have to suffer the log in queues.

In closing, a Billion Dollar company, doesn;t care about you, or how much you love the game. Yoshi P is not the company, just a worker within, same goes for the dev team. But SE the company housing them is, well they're kinda scummy as far as JP companies go.

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The way I understand it but I am still unsure on this NFT thing is they want the money up front BEFORE making any more content and NFT is a way to facilitate this. I could be wrong though.

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They want to make games that requires a down payment, pay to play. People who pay in can then lease what they paid for to people who cant pay, and make money off of them.

Essentially, it's a very large pyramid sceme.

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Originally Posted by strawberrycake

What you're not seeing is that XIV won;t be touched, at least not in the way people are thinking, so if thats all you care about then you don't have to worry. As for him being the CFO at the time he did what he needed to do to keep his job. The best thing to do is not look at this with rose tinted glasses, Yoshi P is a good person who cares, the now CEO has to make a bottom line.

NFT and Crypto will only be in one off games that can milk whales with money they already throw away, the issue of SE baacking NFT and how this does involve XIV, just not in the way everyone is thinking, NFT is affecting the current semi-conductor shortage. XIV is suffering from it, you see how it's a bit of a smack to the face of XIV players. It's Hypocritical and Disrespectful to the dev team who are about to release new content, and the players who will have to suffer the log in queues.

In closing, a Billion Dollar company, doesn;t care about you, or how much you love the game. Yoshi P is not the company, just a worker within, same goes for the dev team. But SE the company housing them is, well they're kinda scummy as far as JP companies go.

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I'm more concern about the lack of touch with the consumer than about NFTs, metaverse and the like. Those things are just consequences.

But I guess you're right. I mean, even at Blizzard that sort of arrangement worked (Jeff Kaplan was shielding his team from the shitstorm coming from the rest of the company).

Part of me wonders if SE CEO is being pressured by shareholders due to the events of last month.

I don't know how SE's sales actually have been but I get a bad feeling like they can't have been good, and that over the critical Christmas month. :(

Misfortune the first: There are probably basically no EW post sales, because of the freeze out on new user accounts (plus all those folks who friends had just about convinced to join XIV, then hesitated just a little too long because of the queue hell, then found they could no longer register).

Misfortune the second: Unlike most game pre orders, EW pre orders probably did precious little for the critical Christmas sales period, because most people paid for them months ago in order to get the pre-order earring etc., meaning, I assume, that those sales counted for the summer, not for December.

Misfortune the third: I'd guess anything that Fantasia sales, the traditional XIV whale vehicle, probably took a nose dive since EW launch despite the introduction of the much wanted Bunny Boys, because the fact that you must log out to use one alone put (and still probably puts on some of the most congested servers like Gilgamesh and Cactuar) a severe damper on doing so. Some RPers are known to use multiple Fanta a day, but that's definitely not happening when you have to get back into a 3000+ queue every time, and that's assuming the game even LETS you use the appearance change (as noted in another thread, if the server decides when you queue up that you don't get to see your character, you don't get to do the appearance edit either!).

Misfortune the fourth: It's Steam Sale season, so most of the OTHER games in SE's catalog are only being sold at half price or so. Not like they can really pull out of the Steam sale either, if they want people to even buy anything at all ...

Misfortune the fifth: This basically leaves FF7R on Epic as almost their main full price offering right now, and many people are already mad about the $70 price tag, being forced to use Epic, or both ...

Assuming all these are as stated -

Shareholders to CEO: WHERE. IS. MY. MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!! What are you going to do to get more MONEY!!!!!!!