Think we are about to see another wave.

https://kotaku.com/inside-blizzard-d...ite-1847378762

Some things you can't make up. They would be too difficult to believe if you tried.

People belong in jail over this.

With the amount of resources at their disposal, there is no doubt that Blizzard could revitalize their brand with right people at the helm if given time. However, I don’t know if Activision is willing to give them the amount of time and patience that SE gave to FF14.

Also, the current crisis is hitting on the reputation of the very founders of Blizzard. It is equivalent to if Sakaguci, Nomura and Kitase all embroidered in a disastrous scandal that has been going on since the golden days of SquareSoft . That kind of reputation damage on a brand is difficult to repair.

After #MeToo, #BlackLivesMatter #StopAsianHate, and general Cancel Culture, it is crazy to me to see companies not taking DEI seriously.
Talk about digging your own grave, they really can't say they didn't see it coming...

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Also, the current crisis is hitting on the reputation of the very founders of Blizzard. [...] That kind of reputation damage on a brand is difficult to repair.

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We're watching it from the position of knowledge. I wonder how far these news spread out among less "hardcore" gamers.
I fully expect Diablo 2 to sell millions of copies, even among people who are currently outraged and screaming bloody murder on social media. Because if there is one thing certain, it's how easily boycotts are forgotten when new shiny thing is out.

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We're watching it from the position of knowledge. I wonder how far these news spread out among less "hardcore" gamers.

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Here in Germany this Blizzard thing is already in the mainstream media. So normal gamers should notice it too.


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With the amount of resources at their disposal, there is no doubt that Blizzard could revitalize their brand with right people at the helm if given time. However, I don’t know if Activision is willing to give them the amount of time and patience that SE gave to FF14.

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At this point the only way to salvage WoW would be to give up and hand the entire thing over to another, better team/company. Which obviously isn't realistic, but unlike FF14 1.0, on top of a poor quality game, they're going to carry this scandal with them to the end. Who could trust they've learned any lesson and will magically become decent people when this has been happening an entire decade and their immediate response is to lie and cover it up. I don't see this as a case of patching things over, Blizzard is basically done for me. I'd never trust them enough to buy one of their games ever again.

Also pulling a ff14 1.0 just isn't possible for Blizzard even without the scandal. It's not just resources, it takes a ridiculous amount of hard work and passion to dig a dead, failed game out of the grave and make it into one of the top MMO's in the world. I don't think we quite appreciate how amazing our developer team is for accomplishing this.

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At this point the only way to salvage WoW would be to give up and hand the entire thing over to another, better team/company. Which obviously isn't realistic, but unlike FF14 1.0, on top of a poor quality game, they're going to carry this scandal with them to the end. Who could trust they've learned any lesson and will magically become decent people when this has been happening an entire decade and their immediate response is to lie and cover it up. I don't see this as a case of patching things over, Blizzard is basically done for me. I'd never trust them enough to buy one of their games ever again.

Also pulling a ff14 1.0 just isn't possible for Blizzard even without the scandal. It's not just resources, it takes a ridiculous amount of hard work and passion to dig a dead, failed game out of the grave and make it into one of the top MMO's in the world. I don't think we quite appreciate how amazing our developer team is for accomplishing this.

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as has been said before, it takes a lifetime to build a reputation and one second to destroy it.

I do not regret the stupid amount of time I spent playing there, there is a lot of emotional investment over the years. but this debacle has crushed out what little desire remained to "check out their latest". long ago they stopped earning my money, and now, they have stopped earning what little trust and respect I had left for them.

If anyone is wondering how the strike is going, Blizzard has seen how it's workers are coming together and has hired a union busting firm (the one currently stopping Amazon employees from unionizing).

https://kotaku.com/activision-blizza...ers-1847386654

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If anyone is wondering how the strike is going, Blizzard has seen how it's workers are coming together and has hired a union busting firm (the one currently stopping Amazon employees from unionizing).

https://kotaku.com/activision-blizza...ers-1847386654

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It is a smart business choice. Mind you, not letting this happen would have been also.


I am getting irked that some of the workers are trying to push big social issues and all this other stuff with a movement. How about just focus on a better work space for all? Making this issue about LGTBQ, minority or whatever else. I almost rolled my eyes to the back of my head. Like time and place for the issues. Can we please just stay focus on the problem at hand? When you try and shotgun all the problems you lose focus and people.

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I am getting irked that some of the workers are trying to push big social issues and all this other stuff with a movement. How about just focus on a better work space for all? Making this issue about LGTBQ, minority or whatever else.

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From what I understand, they all want a not terrible work environment, and the minorities are getting especially abused and picked on.
Justice for all seems to mean: more justice for those who have been getting more abused, and I don't think that's a bad thing.

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From what I understand, they all want a not terrible work environment, and the minorities are getting especially abused and picked on.
Justice for all seems to mean: more justice for those who have been getting more abused, and I don't think that's a bad thing.

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That very well could be I don't know. I just know that when you start to expand the issues into everything else people tend to lose focus, and get annoyed.


What happen at the work place is bad, no matter your gender skin color whatever. You got support from people, if you start going off on oh it was worse for these set of people, or whatever. It muddles the waters and people just stop caring. You can blame corporations using movements as a monetization.

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If anyone is wondering how the strike is going, Blizzard has seen how it's workers are coming together and has hired a union busting firm (the one currently stopping Amazon employees from unionizing).

https://kotaku.com/activision-blizza...ers-1847386654

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Class act, that Kotick boy.

https://i.imgur.com/YOuqgxo.jpg

Class.

Act.

They hired them to investigate their internal policies and managers that interfered with them. That firm is a top tier firm, of course they have taken on other cases. Any firm they hire, especially the high mountain expensive ones, would likely have done something questionable. It's possible, but I also caution looking for reasons to /want/ even more blood. For what they were hired if they use their top tier skill for- that is a good thing and the only thing we /know/ they were hired for is to investigate all the misconduct and improve their policies for a healthier work environment (things that obviously are direly needed).

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That is a fair point. Me having 0 faith in or goodwill with Activision/Blizzard is def causing me to jump the gun a bit here. I should def temper myself. Thanks for the post.

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That is a fair point. Me having 0 faith in or goodwill with Activision/Blizzard is def causing me to jump the gun a bit here. I should def temper myself. Thanks for the post.

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You may be right in the end, which would be quite... ;(... , but was as you said attempting add tempering to the situation - clearly everything going on is extremely delicate (and important), so if hiring for the big guns to do the right thing then awesome. If they got them for the union stuff and don't care about the other issues, then I can only imagine how horribly their case is going to go when the judge reviews this all (and the blizzard name finding the deepest darkest depths of mud that you didn't know existed to smear on themselves). I'm not a huge Activision fan lol, the choices and focus is clearly money first, but it makes sense to me to pull out the nuke scale law firms to handle this issue as competently, obviously, and quickly as possible as each moment is more problems on many fronts.

There may be due time for the frenzy to grow larger, just hoping we scale appropriately lol - it's easy to demonize someone who has already done something wrong. Also no problem mate, I enjoy your posts.

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I respect you, so hearing this made my night~
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Then the feeling is mutual :). Glad someone has good feelings for me, at nearly 8k posts I sometimes imagine I've infamy more than anything lol.

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Also no problem mate, I enjoy your posts.

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I respect you, so hearing this made my night~
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