Let's all brace ourselves for no healer mention in any capacity for the upcoming LL

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Originally Posted by RinaShinomiya

I am very excited to re-experience the entire story with "Eager Conjurer" by my side.

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tbf he did mention later into the LL that they've been listening to player feedback/requests on some npcs to have for particular dungeons, i just assume there arent always going to be a handful of story-fitting story npcs for each role for every dungeon (the eager npcs were shown for sastasha duty assist, which is basically before you know much of anyone)

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Originally Posted by SpiralMask

tbf he did mention later into the LL that they've been listening to player feedback/requests on some npcs to have for particular dungeons, i just assume there arent always going to be a handful of story-fitting story npcs for each role for every dungeon (the eager npcs were shown for sastasha duty assist, which is basically before you know much of anyone)

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I'd still prefer Yellow Jackets or something that fits the area than a completely generic "Eager" character. Maybe a generic Adventurers guild member? just anything that gives them any kind of flavor.

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Originally Posted by RinaShinomiya

I'd still prefer Yellow Jackets or something that fits the area than a completely generic "Eager" character. Maybe a generic Adventurers guild member? just anything that gives them any kind of flavor.

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I vaguely remember my first time running Sastasha. Isn't there a band of adventures right outside? If so, couldn't they come with us?

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

I vaguely remember my first time running Sastasha. Isn't there a band of adventures right outside? If so, couldn't they come with us?

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There are two groups. One group is Edda, Avere, Liavinne, and Paiyo Reiyo. They're about to go in as a group but are too busy flaming Edda for being slow, useless, and too broke to buy potions. The other group is Alianne and Isildaure who are taking a break because Isildaure is old as hell. That leaves one group already full and the other group short a party of four. Probably easier to just tweak Baderon's dialogue to say he's already hired a group that's waiting for us at the cave and have those be the Eager Adventurers.

Healers will probably be focused a lot in the next LL, The date is a huge hint :p

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Originally Posted by Calysto

Healers will probably be focused a lot in the next LL, The date is a huge hint :p

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If the LL is slated for April 1st, then it's just going to be a cruel joke for Healers.

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

If the LL is slated for April 1st, then it's just going to be a cruel joke for Healers.

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I worry about the promised WHM buffs and DRK Living dead improvement now.

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Originally Posted by RinaShinomiya

I worry about the promised WHM buffs and DRK Living dead improvement now.

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I can see it how.

Assize gets buffed to 8%
Living Dead CD reduced to 240s

Completely missing the mark on both classes while fixing nothing and this is me being optimistic. The more cynical part of me is screaming that they won't even do that much and just do some asinine change that doesn't help the jobs at all, like making Blood Weapon last 1s longer and buffing the potency of Lilybell to 500 upfront heals but only having 4 stacks to compensate.

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Originally Posted by Calysto

Healers will probably be focused a lot in the next LL, The date is a huge hint :p

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I mean, after the dismissive and condescending "if you're bored go play Ultimate" what more can they do?

"Here's all the amazing stuff we could have added, NAAAAHHH April Fools!"

God, I don't feel very well about this LL. Even if it's on April 1st, I am not looking forward to it. I just about expect them to cast Healers aside and not recognize the "No Healer" runs that happen in Expert with WAR and PLD.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

I mean, after the dismissive and condescending "if you're bored go play Ultimate" what more can they do?

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I dunno. Finally admit we're a joke of a role and remove the holy trinity into a duality by making us into dps equivilents?

:thinking: But would that be a joke at that point or an improvement?

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Originally Posted by ASkellington

I dunno. Finally admit we're a joke of a role and remove the holy trinity into a duality by making us into dps equivilents?

:thinking: But would that be a joke at that point or an improvement?

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I'd love to be recategorized as "Support" and remove the healer tag. Might jolt the Devs into a different mindset.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

I'd love to be recategorized as "Support" and remove the healer tag. Might jolt the Devs into a different mindset.

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Oh yes. We're now classified as support. Heal support.
Meaning they can remove all our other utility and leave us with just healing skills because it wouldn't be fair to the other support if we had healing and support.

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

Oh yes. We're now classified as support. Heal support.
Meaning they can remove all our other utility and leave us with just healing skills because it wouldn't be fair to the other support if we had healing and support.

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Life Support. FTFY.

I'm not expecting a healing model overhaul going into an Ultimate in an active expansion. I would like some changes but I am happy to be realistic and wait things out.

However, if we hit 7.0 and nothing changes in a fair few regards, I feel like my interest in the game will probably significantly decline. I don't want this to be the future, especially when most of us don't even have big or specific demands we just want our role to be a little more interactive and fun.

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Originally Posted by Calysto

Healers will probably be focused a lot in the next LL, The date is a huge hint :p

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Why do you have to be so correct /sobs ;_;

LL's have been a disappointment for healers for years, so I don't expect anything anymore, but somehow they manage to disappoint all the same. There's something disheartening about hearing the lead developer confirm that they hear us, don't care, and it's always going to be this way. It kills that last spark of hope.

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

LL's have been a disappointment for healers for years, so I don't expect anything anymore, but somehow they manage to disappoint all the same. There's something disheartening about hearing the lead developer confirm that they hear us, don't care, and it's always going to be this way. It kills that last spark of hope.

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Hearing what is very reminiscent of "You think you do, but you don't." slowly makes you cynical about the rest of the game as well, because it is a mindset that is all too familiar to a lot of people and doesn't bode well for the future of the game.

Here are my predictions:
SGE - Single target direct heals get a big boost and some DPS improvements that make Kardia stronger.
SCH - Most of their shields get a potency increase, fairy healing increased and some increases in their DPS.
AST - Cards made stronger, more potent and Neutral sect gets some potency increases.
WHM - Some healing mana cost reductions but all other changes need more investigation.

As a career WHM, this is what I am bracing for and yes, WHM was mentioned in a LL so that is why I mentioned that they will get something.

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Originally Posted by Hyperia

Here are my predictions:
SGE - Single target direct heals get a big boost and some DPS improvements that make Kardia stronger.
SCH - Most of their shields get a potency increase, fairy healing increased and some increases in their DPS.
AST - Cards made stronger, more potent and Neutral sect gets some potency increases.
WHM - Some healing mana cost reductions but all other changes need more investigation.

As a career WHM, this is what I am bracing for and yes, WHM was mentioned in a LL so that is why I mentioned that they will get something.

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Imo I think casual content needs to become a bit harder, more healing should be required it's just absurd to have tanks quite literally solo:ing bosses.
Isn't the problem that in most content healing devolves into dps filler spam?
Higher healing would only make this worse.

Scaling casual and older content better would go a long way I think to make healers more engaging to play.

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

Imo I think casual content needs to become a bit harder, more healing should be required it's just absurd to have tanks quite literally solo:ing bosses.
Isn't the problem that in most content healing devolves into dps filler spam?
Higher healing would only make this worse.

Scaling casual and older content better would go a long way I think to make healers more engaging to play.

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I absolutely agree, healing has gotten so powerful from all sources that healers are for the most part, totally optional in most content if done properly.

My post was mostly dark humor as they keep boosting our healing abilities yet reduce our need to heal. As it stands now, I hate trying to heal a WAR in Expert dungeons because they usually self heal instantly before I can get my heals off and we overheal as a result.

They really need to have a dedicated healer developer and coordinate healing in content so healers actually heal, rather than 97% DPS on a fight. If they don’t, I expect to see healers disappear and become some kind of DPS support. I hate that thought but that seems to be the new thing…

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

Imo I think casual content needs to become a bit harder, more healing should be required it's just absurd to have tanks quite literally solo:ing bosses.
Isn't the problem that in most content healing devolves into dps filler spam?
Higher healing would only make this worse.

Scaling casual and older content better would go a long way I think to make healers more engaging to play.

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100%. Casual content in this game is laughably boring. I can’t stand doing anything other than extremes, savage and the occasional expert dungeon. I’m glad I started playing in HW when everything was actually difficult. Redoing level sync’s scaling and overhauling the healer role would be a good start.