Petition: Don't allow two home points!

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Originally Posted by Aistaraina

I petition to have SE remove all of Rokien's Anima, but allow everyone else to keep their own. Therefore he can walk everywhere like he wants, while the rest of us don't waste our time doing meaningless crap.

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make one, I'll sign and lIke it!

Anima & timers dumb and are only there to annoy players. They provide no additional value to the game. Don't even get me started about being locked out of dungeons for 15min :mad:

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Originally Posted by Rokien

make one, I'll sign and lIke it!

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Start your own. I prefer not to create thousands of stupid threads.

You seem to be confusing stress with challenge. Traveling long distances causes fatigue because of the stress of maintaining focus on one thing for so long, not because it a challenge.

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Originally Posted by Aistaraina

Start your own. I prefer not to create thousands of stupid threads.

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It wouldn't be a stupid thread, you would have 1000000likes!

also that's an opinion!

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Originally Posted by Denmark

You seem to be confusing stress with challenge. Traveling long distances causes fatigue because of the stress of maintaining focus on one thing for so long, not because it a challenge.

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It's a challenge to maintain focus.....

@Noctus

If its stupid to add travel in a video game, why isn't every game like Vindictus or PSO?

Just... stop trying guys. He's either a bad troll or incredibly dense lol. Probably both.

His posts have dwindled down to the likeness of a broken record.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Well ya it does correlate to difficulty, mental difficulty. If you spent the time riding somewhere, you will be kinda mentally fatigued when you do the fight, thus being less effective during the fight.

Also the faster you can travel places the faster you can get stuff, thus making it easier to get better stuff, thus making the game easier because you had to spend x time getting somewhere. If we didn't have teleports or what have you, non of you would have all classes 50 but only a few.

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I don't know about you but riding or walking a couple of minutes to my destination doesn't mentally fatigue me. I tend to actually zone out most of the time while travelling. I'm just as effective after walking or after teleporting, maybe you should stop mentally over-exerting yourself by moving.

Are you also challenged by eating food and watching TV, because they both require at least a small amount of focus.

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Originally Posted by Arcell

I don't know about you but riding or walking a couple of minutes to my destination doesn't mentally fatigue me. I tend to actually zone out most of the time while travelling. I'm just as effective after walking or after teleporting, maybe you should stop mentally over-exerting yourself by moving.

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Oh thank you! I shall work on that D:

How is this a petition? More like a teddy throwing session if you ask me.

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Originally Posted by Denmark

Are you also challenged by eating food and watching TV, because they both require at least a small amount of focus.

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Yes, you are challenged by just eating and watching tv..... everything you do is a challenge, you may not see it. But something simple as "tie a shoelace" is easy and simple for you(don't think of it as a challenge), others it opposes great challenge.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

If its stupid to add travel in a video game, why isn't every game like Vindictus or PSO?

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We have travel. The key here is balance. This 2nd home point isn't breaking it. This last series of posts between you and I have to do with your flimsy argument that mental stress due to extensive monotonous in-game traveling is a viable form of challenge for a video game.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Yes, you are challenged by just eating and watching tv..... everything you do is a challenge, you may not see it. But something simple as "tie a shoelace" is easy and simple for you(don't think of it as a challenge), others it opposes great challenge.

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....aaaaand you are officially trolling. GGs.

Oh good grief now theres a maint he's patroling his thread like a good little policeman, get over yourself fella.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

No you don't but you are missing the point. Point is, if it's hard on your mind, it is a challenge.

Doesn't matter if it's "time sync" or whatever. If you can't handle the travel it's a challenge for you.

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It is time sink... as in sinking you know like a ship that gets a hole in it sinks in the ocean... Time sync would be trying to say it syncs your time... or matches your time which just wouldn't make sense.

Anyways for the most part on this... and I don't really like to go this way but I have to agree with Wolfie. Take a break from the forums for a bit before posting again please.

I personally do not see how this will cause a problem at all... with this I will still have my HP set to Gridania at the Inn and I can not set my HP somewhere else when I got to do events or just helping people with stuff. I think it works out just fine. Also I happen to take the airship all the time and I also run around everywhere and use my chocobo a lot.

But I guess some of you humans just like messing things up and taking things away from others... I think someone else posted this but I will state it again... This is why we can't have nice things...

The cat is bemused =-.-=

I'm looking forward to setting my HP to broken water and returning to my inn so I can refresh my leves =)
This makes it easier for new people and help entice them to stay so I have no objections.

Its no different to smart use of warps/HP in 11 for farming or other purposes.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

We have travel. The key here is balance. This 2nd home point isn't breaking it. This last series of posts between you and I have to do with your flimsy argument that mental stress due to extensive monotonous in-game traveling is a viable form of challenge for a video game.


....aaaaand you are officially trolling. GGs.

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It is breaking the game, why have an instant airship, no, why have a airship at all?

anyways afk buss home see you on game~

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Originally Posted by Rokien

It is breaking the game, why have an instant airship, no, why have a airship at all?

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Because there are more than 2 places to go to and Returns have a 15 minute recast.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

It is breaking the game, why have an instant airship, no, why have a airship at all?

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Tell me, what exactly is it breaking? You're immersion? Lulz. It isn't breaking anything, it's providing players and easier method of travel, so we can actually DO THINGS instead of spending 30 minutes running from point A to point B, just to run right back to point A again.

I found this game for you, I think you'll enjoy it. http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Yes, you are challenged by just eating and watching tv..... everything you do is a challenge, you may not see it. But something simple as "tie a shoelace" is easy and simple for you(don't think of it as a challenge), others it opposes great challenge.

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by this definition then opening the menu to hit return is also a challenge so problem solved, we get the fast travel and a nice challenge, so can we call it a day yet?

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Originally Posted by Rokien

"こんばんは。
Good evening,

以前、宿屋の中にデジョンの他にテレポでも飛べるようになるとお答えいたしましたが、
皆さんからのフィードバックを頂き、以下のように仕様を見直すことになりました。
Previously we have mentioned you will be able to teleport into the Inn but after receiving everyone's feedbacks we decided to change the system to the following:

テレポでは宿屋には飛べない。
Can't teleport to inside the Inn
デジョンの登録先を現在のホームポイントの設定とは別に、宿屋にも設定できるようにする。
You will be able set home point aside from the regular home point specifically for the Inn (2nd homepoint but just for Inn)
設定できる宿屋は1都市のみ。
You can only set Inn to 1 city



また何かあれば引き続きフィードバックをお願いいたします。
If there is anything else please continue to leave feedbacks, thanks.Yep that's it

So technically you can do..
1 - Inn HP - Limsa
2 - Aetheryte HP - Ul'dah " by Reinheart

Sorry for making another thread, but I think I'm the only one that will do this!

Please don't make traveling even easier, now we can just free "teleport" to main city/camp. Or city/city. or whatever/whatever.

Forget the timer! Just death warp.
>equip level 1 item>unequip cloths>die>No death penalty>Warp>?>Profit(free warps with no timer)

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Sorry, we'll quit ruining your immersion, now.

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/me...ndonThread.gif

But he never answered my question.

I don't see what the big deal is.

Hey guys i had to walk to the store today and that was the most challenging thing i ever did in my lyfe :)

You must live in Florida.

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

You must live in Florida.

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Yeah i had an hoodie on >.>

Hoodies are enmity +87

I'm only using the following qoutes as a reference. I'm just trying to get a better idea about the reasoning behind the comments and give my honest opinion about being able to set 2 homepoints.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

"こんばんは。
Good evening,

以前、宿屋の中にデジョンの他にテレポでも飛べるようになるとお答えいたしましたが、
皆さんからのフィードバックを頂き、以下のように仕様を見直すことになりました。
Previously we have mentioned you will be able to teleport into the Inn but after receiving everyone's feedbacks we decided to change the system to the following:

テレポでは宿屋には飛べない。
Can't teleport to inside the Inn
デジョンの登録先を現在のホームポイントの設定とは別に、宿屋にも設定できるようにする。
You will be able set home point aside from the regular home point specifically for the Inn (2nd homepoint but just for Inn)
設定できる宿屋は1都市のみ。
You can only set Inn to 1 city



また何かあれば引き続きフィードバックをお願いいたします。
If there is anything else please continue to leave feedbacks, thanks.Yep that's it

So technically you can do..
1 - Inn HP - Limsa
2 - Aetheryte HP - Ul'dah " by Reinheart

Sorry for making another thread, but I think I'm the only one that will do this!

Please don't make traveling even easier, now we can just free "teleport" to main city/camp. Or city/city. or whatever/whatever.

Forget the timer! Just death warp.
>equip level 1 item>unequip cloths>die>No death penalty>Warp>?>Profit(free warps with no timer)

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Originally Posted by Majidah

I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how allowing to set your home point in two different cities won't render airship travel useless.

Currently that's what I use the airship for: move from city to city. It takes walking to the airport, it costs 5k, and it takes some walking again.

How will being able to hit 1 button at NO cost to teleport yourself from city to city DIRECTLY into the inn or gate NOT render airships completely useless as means of transporation?

At most you could say that SOMETIMES you need to go to the third city, but how often can that be, honestly? If it were really that often, you'd just change your HP.

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To be honest, i still don't understand why being able to set 2 different homepoint will render the airships useless. From what i understood from the OP is that you can only return to either homepoint. So, it's basically a one-way trip. On the other hand, it doesn't say that both homepoints won't be accessible via the same Return option. By that i mean that when you use "Return", you will get the option to select either the "Aetheryte" homepoint or the "Inn" homepoint. After using the Return option, the 15 minute timer would kick in and you will have to wait 15 minutes to "Return" to another location.

So, if i currently have my "Aetheryte" homepoint set to Camp Glory in Coerthas, my "Inn" homepoint in Ul'dah and want to travel to Gridania to do a Primal battle, then i would still use either a Teleport (if i have enough Anima) or travel by Airship. That is something i would've done even if we only have 1 homepoint. I really don't see the problem of having 2 Homepoints.

And to be completely honest Rokien, does it really matter if we have 1 or 2 homepoint for people who want to "Death Port"? If people want to "Death Port", they would do it anyway, regardless of how many Anima or Homepoints they have.

How many of you have forgotten to set your Homepoint back to your original "Aetheryte" homepoint (like Ul'dah) after doing a quest or spiritbond party in Coerthas? And when you use "Return" at (for instance at Camp Broken Water), you find yourself at Camp Glory instead of Ul'dah? On that note, i wouldn't mind being able to set a 2nd Homepoint at an Inn. That way i can always port back to the city i usually go to, in order to park myself in the Inn and log for the day.

But, in short... Until we recieve more information about how we can use 2 different homepoint, all we can do is speculate. I'm not going to say that we shouldn't discuss the matter, but it's wise to keep an open mind. The game is not going to "break" because of an option like setting a 2nd homepoint, which you don't have to use if you don't want/need to.

I for one enjoy to walk around on my Chocobo and travel with the Airship. But i will use my Anime if i need to go somewhere fast.

Here ya go, the official response:

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

We have finalized the plans for being able to return to inns and we wanted to share them with you:

• It won’t be possible to “Teleport” to an inn
• Players can choose to “Return” to inns, in addition to their currently set home point
• Only one inn can be set at a time

That said, we still want to hear your feedback and will pass it along to the team!

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Oh it's gonna happen alright :D

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Originally Posted by Antanias

Here ya go, the official response:

Oh it's gonna happen alright :D

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Bwahaha.

Also seriously, hoodies in FL? I know all about current events, but it's seriously like a billion degrees here. I'm getting hot just thinking about wearing a hoodie out right now.

They're the best tanking gear!

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

They're the best tanking gear!

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Till you get one-sho..

err.

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Originally Posted by Aver

Bwahaha.

Also seriously, hoodies in FL? I know all about current events, but it's seriously like a billion degrees here. I'm getting hot just thinking about wearing a hoodie out right now.

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LOL i know right.

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

They're the best tanking gear!

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Duh the since the head and body are together you get 400 def total!!

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Originally Posted by Aver

Till you get one-sho..

err.

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LMAO i can't stop laughing.

Hahahaha! I was not going to go all the way over there.... xD

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Originally Posted by Firon

Hey guys i had to walk to the store today and that was the most challenging thing i ever did in my lyfe :)

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

You must live in Florida.

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Originally Posted by Firon

Yeah i had an hoodie on >.>

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

Hoodies are enmity +87

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

They're the best tanking gear!

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Originally Posted by Aver

Till you get one-sho..

err.

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How to Get a Thread Locked 101.

lol

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Originally Posted by Sephrick

How to Get a Thread Locked 101.

lol

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Nono, you turn the thread into a taco party :D

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Originally Posted by Antanias

Nono, you turn the thread into a taco party :D

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Well, then...


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Dude..............(OP)
GTFO with this mess. Seriously, its people like you that make me hate people. Who cares!!!! And even if the answer is you..........who cares. You just need to learn to lighten up a bit, its not the crisis situation you make it out to be. Now please end this thread and all other petition threads before I start spamming the forums with made up ridiculous petitions. Maybe I should anyway?


P.S. In the words of Ebenezer Scrooge, "Bah! Humbug!"