Non-RPers Unite!

Some of you are really a nice piece of work you know?....... Rpers don't want special treatment, It would also be nice if people would stop assuming the stupidest things about us.

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And yeah...I'd love for them to get their own server so we...I mean they...can be quaran--I mean enjoy their RPing without disturbance...

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I really don't think you truly know what you are talking about. Seriously, I'm not one for RPing on a MMO, but the very few I have encountered are nothing like you seem to imagine.

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

Some of you are really a nice piece of work you know?....... Rpers don't want special treatment, It would also be nice if people would stop assuming the stupidest things about us.

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If that were the case, I wouldn't see post after post of Rpers asking for there own server now would I?

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Originally Posted by Coglin

If that were the case, I wouldn't see post after post of Rpers asking for there own server now would I?

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Like any group, there are the vocal minority, RPers already have a server, so there is no need for SE to "give" us one. Now before hand when it seemed that all the servers where to be thrown in a bag and reassigned, it would have been nice to have an RP server pointed out. Even that was already being done by players though, choosing one of the servers and telling all the RPers to go to that server.

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Originally Posted by YuriSan

Official "I will try desperatly to match an alpine war jacket even if i have to battle in a canvas half apron" server YES!!

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HAHAHAHA... that is some funny shit
I can't believe someone got me to actually post in the Twelve-forsaken thread

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

Like any group, there are the vocal minority, RPers already have a server, so there is no need for SE to "give" us one. Now before hand when it seemed that all the servers where to be thrown in a bag and reassigned, it would have been nice to have an RP server pointed out. Even that was already being done by players though, choosing one of the servers and telling all the RPers to go to that server.

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That doesn't change the fact that you made the false claim

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

Rpers don't want special treatment.

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When in fact RPers posted by the droves, demanding SE to designate a special server for you. Thats about as "special treatment" as it gets.

*looks up at Issachar's stereotype-laden post*
*looks down at the tags*

This. This is the reason why we want a server of our own.

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Originally Posted by Urthdigger

*looks up at Issachar's stereotype-laden post*
*looks down at the tags*

This. This is the reason why we want a server of our own.

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Trolling in a troll thread? Unheard of :O

Eh, I felt I had to at least say something. I was getting bored by the back and forth arguing over semantics.

uh oh... mom and dad are home

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

Some of you are really a nice piece of work you know?

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and some of you (roleplayers) take yourselves, this forum and this game entirely too seriously.

strange that people with such vivid imaginations would have such difficulty lightening up

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Originally Posted by fusional

and some of you (roleplayers) take yourselves, this forum and this game entirely too seriously.

strange that people with such vivid imaginations would have such difficulty lightening up

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People don't like being picked on over a hobby.

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Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba

People don't being picked on over a hobby.

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Well when your hobby is notorious for being obnoxious and pretentious...I mean, a good deal of RPers think they're a breed above others, holier-than-thou, or just plain more intelligent. Is it any wonder why people shun you?

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Originally Posted by YuriSan

Besaid + Fabul = EWWWWWW!!!!

As it wasnt enough having a bunch of elitists, dicks, inconsidered unthankfull a-holes, backstabbers, botters, idiots, posers, mentaly ill poison filled people,
pretencious knowitalls, polititians and other crap foam of human beings we gonna have RPers too????????
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

J/K I dont mind if it's all in a manner that dont much affect me.
Will see what will happen tho.

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Yuri, every RP'er will flock to Balmung like fleas and this is what Balmung will be like. >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_ekugPKqFw

Any questions?

Let's get the hell out of here man and we can even take Brigandier with us if he likes.

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Originally Posted by Issachar

Well when your hobby is notorious for being obnoxious and pretentious...I mean, a good deal of RPers think they're a breed above others, holier-than-thou, or just plain more intelligent. Is it any wonder why people shun you?

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It is this impression I receive of FF11 and FF14 gamers toward the other MMO communities.

That somehow their community is more mature, respectful, elite, or intelligent. When really, they're all the same. Good eggs and bad eggs in every community trying to enjoy one of their hobbies. The good lumped in with the bad.

Where gaming is the mother hobby. Playing MMORPGs a subset. Playing FF14 a subset of that. And someone from WoW hears a bunch of FF14 beta testers bashing a game he happens to enjoy. WoW gamer has bad impression of FF14 gamers, wants the game to fail to get back at them.

And then RP, folks who share a common language outside the target language, or other beliefs are subsets of that game's population. And though they have something in common, they're not united by it. Still differences of opinion, conflict, or elitism within each group.

Guilt by association or similarity I suppose.

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Originally Posted by Issachar

Well when your hobby is notorious for being obnoxious and pretentious...I mean, a good deal of RPers think they're a breed above others, holier-than-thou, or just plain more intelligent. Is it any wonder why people shun you?

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Right, all RPers are pretentious and stuck up. Just like all black people are criminals, every jew wants your money, every mexican is lazy, and every american is an asshole. This is what we like to call stereotypes, and they don't tend to apply to everyone in a group. Or even to the majority of that group in a lot of cases.

Not everyone from Selbina is mean. D=

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

Not everyone from Selbina is mean. D=

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Theres a difference between being mean and being embittered for being treated like a sheep during my time on Besaid for choosing not to RP.

How I handle said bitterness might not be the best course, but you'd be mad too if you were kicked out of parties for not being a roleplayer, or refused to have gear repaired because you weren't a roleplayer, or the like. As much of a troll I can be at times, there's always a pinch of truth in what I say. FFXI RPers weren't nearly as bad as this incarnation's.

And I don't think I'm half as douchey as some people who frequent these forums.

To the nice RPers out there: I'm sorry you have to take the flak because of how many of your peers treat people. I'm not targetting you at all.

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Originally Posted by Urthdigger

Right, all RPers are pretentious and stuck up. Just like all black people are criminals, every jew wants your money, every mexican is lazy, and every american is an asshole. This is what we like to call stereotypes, and they don't tend to apply to everyone in a group. Or even to the majority of that group in a lot of cases.

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The vocal majority makes you seem that way, thats the problem. Its a stereotype for a reason. And its being proven with every post that bashes anyone who doesnt fully go along with everything RPists are demanding.

Really? 18 pages of people arguing over the merits, or lack thereof, of RPing, and generalizations of people that do? Really?


...you all need a hobby. oh wait. /slaps forehead

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Originally Posted by Issachar

Theres a difference between being mean and being embittered for being treated like a sheep during my time on Besaid for choosing not to RP.

How I handle said bitterness might not be the best course, but you'd be mad too if you were kicked out of parties for not being a roleplayer, or refused to have gear repaired because you weren't a roleplayer, or the like. As much of a troll I can be at times, there's always a pinch of truth in what I say. FFXI RPers weren't nearly as bad as this incarnation's.

And I don't think I'm half as douchey as some people who frequent these forums.

To the nice RPers out there: I'm sorry you have to take the flak because of how many of your peers treat people. I'm not targetting you at all.

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Um... Sorry if you have a problem you should take it up with the people causing it? I mean there are a million excuses for meanness, but it's still mean. And if you're apologizing to the good people who happened to RP, why not back it up by stop calling them names. "Sorry you got slaughtered by my mindlessly spraying word bullets but I can't help being a crazed maniac because a couple people didn't want to play with me on a computer game."

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

The vocal majority makes you seem that way, thats the problem. Its a stereotype for a reason. And its being proven with every post that bashes anyone who doesnt fully go along with everything RPists are demanding.

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This. This times a thousand. I will press this Like! button until my mouse shatters.

I dunno, Yoshi P seems to like them. I'll reserve my judgement until merger.

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

I dunno, Yoshi P seems to like them. I'll reserve my judgement until merger.

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Your going to reserve your judgment for when your stuck there?

Sorry, I'm out.. I'm not taking that risk. Have you seen the stuff these Besaid RP'ers post on their lodestone blogs? People on Fabul are concerned right now because most want to go to a normal server but they don't want their shells to crack either and it makes then have to make hard choices.

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Originally Posted by Jadi

Your going to reserve your judgment for when your stuck there?

Sorry, I'm out.. I'm not taking that risk. Have you seen the stuff these Besaid RP'ers post on their lodestone blogs? People on Fabul are in a panic right now because most want to go to a normal server but they don't want their shells to crack either and it makes then have to make hard choices.

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it is a hard choice that people will have to make

Balmung WILL NEVER be the "official" RP server
they will eventualy make a new server for RP that RPists will have to choose to transfer to

itl be the same exact way they did the EU server now


and yeah, communitys will fall apart because of it, some will want to go, others will not
some people will value the friendships they have who are staying over those who are leaving

I think this applies to any situation where you have to make that kinda choice though, it may apply to the EU players a bit less since thats more of a timezone thing, but itl still apply.

It doesn't matter if it's official(tm) or not. If Besaid was normal we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Do you see anywhere else people saying "Oh, Melmond isn't *that* bad"?

Also that works in reverse.. people value the friendship with those that are leaving too.

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Originally Posted by Jadi

Your going to reserve your judgment for when your stuck there?

Sorry, I'm out.. I'm not taking that risk. Have you seen the stuff these Besaid RP'ers post on their lodestone blogs? People on Fabul are concerned right now because most want to go to a normal server but they don't want their shells to crack either and it makes then have to make hard choices.

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I truly feel for Fabul. As bad as this is going to sound, you guys are going to get swarmed and infested. I'm not even trying to troll here...it's just a huge thing to have the core of your server changed overnight to accomodate people who thrust their lifestyles upon you without due choice. Besides, I thought Besaid was active enough to stand alone...?

You're always welcome on Selbina/Ridill.

I'm happy to be merging with Besaid. For those leaving, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Do we really need 20 pages of discussion on this? If you don't want to be on Balmung, you have the opportunity to pick a different server, do so. So, what's the problem?

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

I've got my emnity +9 belt on so that the haters can hate!

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It's Enmity, not Emnity, prissy-pants.

I believe alot of the issue is that alot of the RPist showed there true colors on the thread about demanding an official RP server. They insulted and bashed anyone that disagreed with them, and if any of the terms they used were used back towards them, they went ape ****. There post raised alot of eye brows.

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Originally Posted by Issachar

It's Enmity, not Emnity, prissy-pants.

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does it look like I care?

I haven't met a single annoying person from Besaid yet. So far they seem like very nice folks. That's why I'm not going to believe you. Sorry. :(

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

I haven't met a single annoying person from Besaid yet. So far they seem like very nice folks. That's why I'm not going to believe you. Sorry. :(

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Belgium Rofl
Eliza Joran
Skrech


i could go on lol

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Originally Posted by Issachar

I truly feel for Fabul. As bad as this is going to sound, you guys are going to get swarmed and infested. I'm not even trying to troll here...it's just a huge thing to have the core of your server changed overnight to accomodate people who thrust their lifestyles upon you without due choice. Besides, I thought Besaid was active enough to stand alone...?

You're always welcome on Selbina/Ridill.

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What the heck?

I'm not sure what your personal experience has been or what happened to you (though from your posts it sounds like it required a ball gag and some Vaseline) but I have never once had any roleplayer try to force roleplaying on me. Nor have I been treated badly for not being a roleplayer. In fact, only once in a blue moon do I even notice people roleplaying on Besaid. They are a very small portion of our server community and do not make up the whole of what Besaid is.

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Originally Posted by Coglin

I believe alot of the issue is that alot of the RPist showed there true colors on the thread about demanding an official RP server. They insulted and bashed anyone that disagreed with them, and if any of the terms they used were used back towards them, they went ape ****. There post raised alot of eye brows.

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So replying in this thread for 20 pages in a similar vein is somehow ok?

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Originally Posted by Coglin

I believe alot of the issue is that alot of the RPist showed there true colors on the thread about demanding an official RP server. They insulted and bashed anyone that disagreed with them, and if any of the terms they used were used back towards them, they went ape ****. There post raised alot of eye brows.

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Oh yes because that has nothing to do with how people behave in general on forums. Non-roleplayers such as yourself are totally not guilty of that behavior at all... oh wait...

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

Belgium Rofl
Eliza Joran
Skrech


i could go on lol

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I don't know who those people are, but if they bother me I'll just use the /blacklist.

I don't see this as an issue... Most people on Besaid don't RP

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

I don't know who those people are, but if they bother me I'll just use the /blacklist.

I don't see this as an issue... Most people on Besaid don't RP

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AFAIK only one of those people still logs in and plays. The other two either got bored and moved on or got banned. :D

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Originally Posted by Wynn

Oh yes because that has nothing to do with how people behave in general on forums. Non-roleplayers such as yourself are totally not guilty of that behavior at all... oh wait...

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This is all I had to say about it in the previous 5 threads they made.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...776#post545776

If you read the other thread, RP folks used the terms haters, bigots and more before I even made a single post on the thread.

Not to mention, I never claimed to be an angel.

You guys seem really butt-hurt over all this. You really need to learn to lighten up. So what, they insulted you, move on. It's what grown ups do.