Healer adjustment in 4.05

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Originally Posted by Xhareem

Those changes to SCH don't solve the real problem: our shields just add 10% of tanks' max HP. They are terribly weak. Only crit Adlo is a real mitigation tool.

Meanwhile SCH mitigation is so weak compared to Noct AST, what's the point on bringing an SCH over an AST? AST has better shielding and much better buffs. Clear choice.

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same goes for whm - ast/ast with op noc, aoe heal and dbl star is still the best setup you can go with... now even ast got a crit buff yay nothing left whats missing on their support side now. but for the changes theirselves I like what they trying to do with the shorter aether cd - sch might fill out the off healer role better... with lots of instant casts they can become important to situations were you have to react pretty fast. oh wait... asts have light speed I forgot that... meh well at least I tried to find something good in it : /

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Originally Posted by Neela

same goes for whm - ast/ast with op noc, aoe heal and dbl star is still the best setup you can go with... now even ast got a crit buff yay nothing left whats missing on their support side now. but for the changes theirselves I like what they trying to do with the shorter aether cd - sch might fill out the off healer role better... with lots of instant casts they can become important to situations were you have to react pretty fast. oh wait... asts have light speed I forgot that... meh well at least I tried to find something good in it : /

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I am pretty sure I read that you could not double up on jobs in Savage though?

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

I am pretty sure I read that you could not double up on jobs in Savage though?

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You can double up as long as you go in as a full party.

Random food for thought.

Three different world first capable teams are running three different healer compositions.

Elysium is running WHM/SCH
Angered is running AST/WHM
Solitude is running AST/SCH

It's an interesting thing to see that three different teams can see viability in all different types of combinations.

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Originally Posted by Ghishlain

Random food for thought.

Three different world first capable teams are running three different healer compositions.

Elysium is running WHM/SCH
Angered is running AST/WHM
Solitude is running AST/SCH

It's an interesting thing to see that three different teams can see viability in all different types of combinations.

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Nice! What's even more interesting is that each healer is represented twice and no one is excluded.

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Originally Posted by Ghishlain

Random food for thought.

Three different world first capable teams are running three different healer compositions.

Elysium is running WHM/SCH
Angered is running AST/WHM
Solitude is running AST/SCH

It's an interesting thing to see that three different teams can see viability in all different types of combinations.

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So what you're saying is all combinations are viable in raid for the top 1% players. I wonder if people will stop thinking the sky is falling.

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Originally Posted by RukiaFae

So what you're saying is all combinations are viable in raid for the top 1% players. I wonder if people will stop thinking the sky is falling.

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Indeed. While there will always be the one true super optimal composition in the game, I'd like to think there's enough differences in the healer kits to warrant bringing what you enjoy even if it comes at a slightly sub-optimal total performance. You'll most likely play a kit you enjoy at a higher optimization level than a kit you absolutely abhor.

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Originally Posted by Ghishlain

Indeed. While there will always be the one true super optimal composition in the game, I'd like to think there's enough differences in the healer kits to warrant bringing what you enjoy even if it comes at a slightly sub-optimal total performance. You'll most likely play a kit you enjoy at a higher optimization level than a kit you absolutely abhor.

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This was exactly the reason I ended up going SCH instead of AST for my own group. I'm originally PLD, but some problems with our usual AST forced him to not play for an indefinite amount of time, so I'm covering. I asked if they wanted me on AST for the buffs but they all agreed I should play what I wanted and what I was better at playing, so we're going with WHM+SCH. I'm honestly pretty excited for it, I still think SCH and WHM have really good synergy with each other coming from ARR.