Good King Moggle Mog XII DOWN!

1. Dps race
2. Gear check
3. Right abilities on your action bars
3. Combos - if all members are pro at dps, combos and timing of abilities/spells during a certain phase then it's cake.
4. Survive
5. Moogle order

In no particular order.

Whoopty doo! Why dont u tell us something useful? Like Strategy?

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Originally Posted by Darkrose

This is because JP are very humble people. If they achieve something, they keep it to themself even if they are server first. So who care if you are server first or first kill anyway. Enjoy the game at your paste. The problem with NA is that they rush to see who can do it first and spam on the forum stating they kill it, server first and for whatever reason and demand more content and whine and b.itch about being easy and need more challenge.

For JP when they kill something, they share with everyone and their strategy. They don't need linkshell, they do pickup group and let everyone in on the fun. In NA you must be with a large linkshell or you left alone in the dark. Linkshell like to brag and show off either on forum and in game for the kill so more people join them and even show off how cool their linkshell is.

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You really don't know the japanese very well do you.

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Originally Posted by UnrealTai

everytime even with sent decoy foresight rampart featherfoot stoneskin pro or shell and full hp still ends up wiping whole party cept the glas and maybe an arc if he got lucky with 2500 hit instead of 3500.

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This is what I am wondering. Even with full buffs we get annihilated.

We've survived with two up, that's pretty much the threshold (even then everyone except tanks were at ~500 hp). Any more up than that it's a whipe.

It's a tight fight, very enjoyable, but also it is A LOT of work for the rewards. Neutral Impact just defeated on Figaro and we got 2 nuts and a mogfork.

I'm sure the strategy will be available in a few days, but DGMart up top pretty much nailed it. We spent 6-7hours tonight just trying to figure out the moogle order in phase 2. Once we found something we liked and figured out the gimmick to the king, we were able to take it down in two attempts thereafter.

Also Kupo Nuts not being 100% drop suuuuuucks... please consider fixing this SE ; ;

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Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn

We spent 6-7hours tonight just trying to figure out the moogle order in phase 2. Once we found something we liked and figured out the gimmick to the king, we were able to take it down in two attempts thereafter.

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mind sharing it? it's christmas time lol.

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Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn

Also Kupo Nuts not being 100% drop suuuuuucks... please consider fixing this SE ; ;

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lol WHAT?

Yep, enjoy the dark matter :/

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Our PT setup was: 1 GLA, 2CON, 5ARC


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Will upload our videos soon!

Strat.
If you want to be like everyone else take 4-5 archers, 1-2 Gla- 2 con.
Everyone having Ifrit bows Helps A LOT. Everyone having B4b, BB, Raise, Sentinel, Sacred prism + cure /sanguine rite(Helps if you are new to moogle fight) Invig, Keen flurry (for archers) and last is your choice.
Killing moogles, Learn your combos and linking which abilities to which combo. as an archer with ifrit bow it's not hard for you to solo the caster moogles with the use of keen flurry and other buffs. Blackmage, Whm, Thief, Archer are the ones you want dead asap during second phase, the others you can easily kite around with little worry while you burn king. (Yes he will still go immune at times but you will be fine).
Learn to kite, as an archer you can kite and still do good dps, as melee you can't do anything while kiting (we still managed to do it with 4 mrd 1 lnc 1 gla 2 con) Thats really all you do this fight, kill those 4 moogles first > burn boss > clean up rest > profit.
tips. if everyone stacks during the summon before flow, 1 mage sacred + rite = full mp, all melee sacred + heal AFTER for full hp and mages not basically starting fresh.
Glads can aoe flash the group x2 and start kiting while you pick off targets.

We killed BLM, ARC, BRD, WHM, then king. This way all the melee moogles were left and easy to kite. Also, and most obviously, BLM is the most dangerous, WHM the most annoying, and ARC the toughest to kite (besides GLA which loves to drop hate randomly). WHM dies quick and won't heal the others of course so that was a no-brainer for us. Heck, once king is dead you can face tank the other three easily and tear them down one at a time.

Still really upset the tokens aren't 100% drop. Seems really shady not to give us steady progression in these instances.

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Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn

We killed BLM, ARC, BRD, WHM, then king. This way all the melee moogles were left and easy to kite. Also, and most obviously, BLM is the most dangerous, WHM the most annoying, and ARC the toughest to kite (besides GLA which loves to drop hate randomly). WHM dies quick and won't heal the others of course so that was a no-brainer for us. Heck, once king is dead you can face tank the other three easily and tear them down one at a time.

Still really upset the tokens aren't 100% drop. Seems really shady not to give us steady progression in these instances.

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yup the nuts should be 1+ each kill but yet it's a RANDOM tactic just like getting weapons, it's really stupid, why pay for this? At first i was all for it but now i'm starting to think otherwise

Is the fight nearly impossible to win which make people instantly go for stacking classes?

Every time I try to learn about the endgame content you guys make it seem so very...boring.
Stack LNC, stack ARC, or stack THM is the answer for everything.

Getting to lv50 seems like a complete waste of time right now. The exp party I had earlier seems more fun compared to what I'm reading.

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Originally Posted by Akumu

Is the fight nearly impossible to win which make people instantly go for stacking classes?

Every time I try to learn about the endgame content you guys make it seem so very...boring.
Stack LNC, stack ARC, or stack THM is the answer for everything.

Getting to lv50 seems like a complete waste of time right now. The exp party I had earlier seems more fun compared to what I'm reading.

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Like i keep mentioning We did it with mrds and Lncs people basically played what they wanted to play and we did it before the archer people above.

i'd like to know what's the healing effect of moogle weapons, just to understand if they're worth the pain.

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Originally Posted by Rjain

Do you guys hear that? It sounds like a battle designer sobbing in the distance.

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He should of got drunk before starting work... that's when the real moogle magic begins (prob happening now,lol).

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Originally Posted by viion

There will be a hotfix where the Moogle gets a canon

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Maybe a higher level fight? Ah, but how long was it since the good moogle king update before it's already defeated? (been at work all this week v.v

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Originally Posted by Xoo

Of course with Ifrit, I can bet the devs weren't planning on everyone having all 50's, (or at least the abilitiy to make it that way relatively quickly) with their tier II and III abilities to further support them. Sentinel handy? - take a few hours and go get it. Cure III useful, but your CON is Lv2? - Eh, throw a rock at a Lv50 who's bored and take care of that.

Too much easy is what will eventually break this game for good, if it hasn't already.

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LMAO in the corner (almost choked on my meal)

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Originally Posted by Picoman

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Also grabbed a few screen from the stream.

Good job on a legit kill.

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Congrats from Mysidia! (thumbs up)

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Strategies been posted on here already. You do need competent members though. Main thing is sacred prism aoe heal and buff SS Protect right before astral flow. All
Members sacred prism aoe cure after astral flow (don't forget to sentinel). You can even have someone time a sacred prism SS after astral flow. That's all and moogle order.

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Originally Posted by Madruk

You really don't know the japanese very well do you.

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Check my username, I been party with them most of the time because I know some Japanese.

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Originally Posted by Sanlord

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There are actually 4 Achievements if you Beat it.

1 for Killing the King
1 for finishing the Quest
1 for completing the Achievement
1 if Memento Moogle doesnt happen

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Originally Posted by Darkrose

Check my username, I been party with them most of the time because I know some Japanese.

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He meant that you dont know how they Act in MMO's, as in they rarely share Strategies and Stuff like that.

Can you show moggle weapon status?
Wonder if it has umbral damage +1 ?

Does killing all the moogles before Memento affect the fight afterwards with the king?

Got those down Legit way today @ Wutai

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Working/Thinking of different setups, full Arch and 2 Glad not our way so far :)

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Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn

We killed BLM, ARC, BRD, WHM, then king.

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We do BLM -> WHM -> THF -> WAR -> ARC -> BRD -> King -> PLD


Why do you choose to do ARC over WHM or THF?

THF does Petrify and Drain-MP, and the WHM heals.

So far we only noticed that the ARC does really pitiful damage and thats all it does (about 1/7th of the WAR)

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Originally Posted by Alise

Can you show moggle weapon status?
Wonder if it has umbral damage +1 ?

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All the weapons are +30 ACC, +15 Crit., and +1 HP/MP restore

We just got our 2nd legit kill. 5 arc, 1 gla, 2 con this time. So if you want to watch the stream or chat w/ me, feel free. Maybe both of us can learn something.

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Originally Posted by SniperRifle

We just got our 2nd legit kill. 5 arc, 1 gla, 2 con this time. So if you want to watch the stream or chat w/ me, feel free. Maybe both of us can learn something.

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Great job you guys, takes a lot of balls to kill it legitimately ;3

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Originally Posted by Picoman

lol? ^^

/snowball

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lol what?

/peeonface

people need to make a thread like this and actually keep all the useful info on the first page... this is so incredibly stupid

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Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat

Great job you guys, takes a lot of balls to kill it legitimately ;3

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Are there that many people not killing it legit? We haven't even considered any other way. Granted we haven't killed it yet, but that's not the point to me. Guess you'll tell the people who did it legit to everyone else, cos the legit wins will have videos on their site whilst everyone else will just have derpderp moogle win lulz as their headline :D

My LS did our first run tonight, thought the fight was a blast. Consistently beating phase 1 and astral flow with ease, struggling a bit after and only getting a couple of Moogles down, we're still trying to finalise a kill order. All in though I think the fights been excellent fun. Hands up who calls moogle AF hellfire after so long of spamming ifrit? lol

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Originally Posted by Baxta

Are there that many people not killing it legit? We haven't even considered any other way. Granted we haven't killed it yet, but that's not the point to me. Guess you'll tell the people who did it legit to everyone else, cos the legit wins will have videos on their site whilst everyone else will just have derpderp moogle win lulz as their headline :D

My LS did our first run tonight, thought the fight was a blast. Consistently beating phase 1 and astral flow with ease, struggling a bit after and only getting a couple of Moogles down, we're still trying to finalise a kill order. All in though I think the fights been excellent fun. Hands up who calls moogle AF hellfire after so long of spamming ifrit? lol

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Seems like a lot of LSs are trying legit wins, but if they fail at that then they just use the exploit; if you had tuned into some of the live streams on the first night you'd have noticed the majority doing that. We've gotten the opportunity to do it several times but just wiped instead, that exploit is just too ridiculously easy to abuse and it feels gross, I really hope SE notices this quickly and puts in a hot fix.

Either way, MUCH more respect for not killing it till the 4th day after release but doing it legit, than being a scrub and exploiting for LOL SEVER/WORLD FIRST GUYS. You guys keep trying, there's a wall you hit when trying getting more than 2-3 adds down after astral flow, but you'll eventually surpass that and get the win, and it'll feel great ;3

rofl I keep calling it mooglefire, too many weeks of Ifrit...

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Originally Posted by Baxta

Are there that many people not killing it legit? We haven't even considered any other way. Granted we haven't killed it yet, but that's not the point to me. Guess you'll tell the people who did it legit to everyone else, cos the legit wins will have videos on their site whilst everyone else will just have derpderp moogle win lulz as their headline :D

My LS did our first run tonight, thought the fight was a blast. Consistently beating phase 1 and astral flow with ease, struggling a bit after and only getting a couple of Moogles down, we're still trying to finalise a kill order. All in though I think the fights been excellent fun. Hands up who calls moogle AF hellfire after so long of spamming ifrit? lol

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yes lots of linkshells have cheesed it due to the re-raise exploit. it's pretty fucking sad. If this were WoW or any other established MMO with kill tracking, it would be completely discounted for those people.

But whatevs. People will kill something how they wanna kill it regardless of anything because SE just doesn't put enough time and effort into making sure things aren't exploitable.

Absolutely pathetic that this fight is all we get, but it's much more fun then Ifrit simply because of what is happening. I can't fcking believe Yoshida would pull such a time sink on us like he did. I get it, they don't have valuable content for us, but why piss us off in the long run....or should I say long walk? HAR-HAR

Shouldn't SE be trying to regain our trust? This isn't working at all.





Anyways...only 17 more nuts until a weapon! t-_-t

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Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat

Seems like a lot of LSs are trying legit wins, but if they fail at that then they just use the exploit; if you had tuned into some of the live streams on the first night you'd have noticed the majority doing that. We've gotten the opportunity to do it several times but just wiped instead, that exploit is just too ridiculously easy to abuse and it feels gross, I really hope SE notices this quickly and puts in a hot fix.

Either way, MUCH more respect for not killing it till the 4th day after release but doing it legit, than being a scrub and exploiting for LOL SEVER/WORLD FIRST GUYS. You guys keep trying, there's a wall you hit when trying getting more than 2-3 adds down after astral flow, but you'll eventually surpass that and get the win, and it'll feel great ;3

rofl I keep calling it mooglefire, too many weeks of Ifrit...

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We're on the same wavelength in that regard, if it's a wipe it's wipe, don't really want to zombie it. You get nothing to be proud of at the end of the day.

Yeh we will crack on. I think we made fairly steady progress tonight and it was great fun, so it's all good :)

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Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat

All the weapons are +30 ACC, +15 Crit., and +1 HP/MP restore

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A joke yes?

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

A joke yes?

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Mage weapons have Mag. ACC and Mag. Crit, but no it's not a joke.

The HP/MP restore will proc when attacking a mob and you'll get a little HP/MP back. Can't say how much is restored or how much it procs, asked 22 to test whether the MP restore procs from auto-attack or magic DD because he's the only one with mage weapons so far; will get back to you when we know!

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Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat

Mage weapons have Mag. ACC and Mag. Crit, but no it's not a joke.

The HP/MP restore will proc when attacking a mob and you'll get a little HP/MP back. Can't say how much is restored or how much it procs, asked 22 to test whether the MP restore procs from auto-attack or magic DD because he's the only one with mage weapons so far; will get back to you when we know!

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Thank you, yeah only going for the win now. Weapon isn't worth the stress of fighting the 5 nms.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

Thank you, yeah only going for the win now. Weapon isn't worth the stress of fighting the 5 nms.

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Oh a side note, DoW regen procs basically every time, and it appears heal at a rate of ~25% of your attack

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

Thank you, yeah only going for the win now. Weapon isn't worth the stress of fighting the 5 nms.

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Same with me. With the weapons only offering a huge acc bonus im not really interested. dps on ifrit weapons still seems superior, esp when considering the sheer amount of time those 5 nm can take when u have so many ppl competing for them

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

Thank you, yeah only going for the win now. Weapon isn't worth the stress of fighting the 5 nms.

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Confirm that all the weapons (DoM included) only proc the restore on auto-attacks, but it procs almost all the time (~70% or higher), and just about ~25% of your dmg done

GG SE... mages using auto-attack...