I don't have anyone to powerlevel me and I only solo so I only do leves. I only play 2 to 3 hrs 3 or 4 days a week and I also craft so not all people can get to 50 in 3 days. I know if I went out and partied I would get more exp but I don't really like to do that unless I have a block of free time. I don't want to join then have to leave an hour later. I know this is my problem but everyone plays at their own pace.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raikki
Request: Ability to re-assign class levels after 1.20
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11-24-2011, 01:23 PMlynex
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11-24-2011, 02:01 PMNeptune
Once again we see the logic that someone should just do as you do. Way to put yourself in other shoes Brucy. Let's see you have almost every class at 50. Must be nice to get on the forums and tell people to level up every class with you. Probably makes you feel less lonely, but think of people's time. It's great that you enjoy the game so much but not everyone wishes to put in even 1 extra hour when they were determined to spend their time differently. Just think of others, don't think about your 50s, or what you did, because it's not about YOU. Think of someone else for a change. Be considerate. Try it.
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11-24-2011, 02:05 PMAlerithEdit: DERP moment.Quote:
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Also, it doesn't matter how many 50's people have or don't have. Levels have never been an acceptable measure of the skill a player has. -
11-24-2011, 02:09 PMBruceyBruceyBangBangYeah, I never said to level all 50's. I mentioned DoM. That's 2 classes and I'm often empathetic, and in this situation, it's really about lack of common sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neptune
The player already knew very well that they were not leveling a proficient healer, but still... why would you not plan on leveling CON to max as well. That is the point of the armoury system. People should use it. -
11-24-2011, 02:52 PMNeptuneI didn't make 1 of those threads, but way to respond since I didn't bring skill up and neither did the OP in his OP. Just because the Armoury system rewards effort does not mean people are obligated to put in the work. You should be glad it does without thinking of it as necessary work. I'm sure the OP is well aware of the benefits of leveling up multiple classes, but can you imagine why he doesn't want to put 1 extra level into a class he's not interested in? Maybe he uses his time differently than you. How is that contrary to common sense? Maybe he spends time with his family, love interest, or maybe he hunts deer or is an alcoholic. You see what I'm doing? I'm imagining what it must be like for him instead of forcing my habits on him. Why don't you try that and then consider his request from his perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alerith
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11-25-2011, 04:48 AMSpider-DanThe point of the armoury system is that you should level both mages to max?Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang
Brucey, it seems that all of your responses have been aimed specifically at me and my situation. This thread is not entitled, "Allow THMs to switch to CNJ"; it is about allowing any player whose class role has been reassigned/eliminated to change. This also potentially includes nuking CNJ and enfeebling/soloist shield mages, as well as healing THM.
You say that it was obvious that CNJ would become WHM (despite CNJ having ancient magic), but that doesn't say anything as to whether THM was going to become RDM, SCH, or anything else. It has been claimed repeatedly that role reassignment is not a serious concern because every mage should have both classes to the cap, but do you honestly believe that Yoshida would agree with that sentiment? That any developer would say that players who main one class are expected to have the complimentary class maxed as well?
Will healers who start the game after 1.20 be expected to also level THM to 50, for abilities that have almost no impact on healing? -
11-25-2011, 05:22 AMAenarion
might as well lock this thread now, everyone is just repeating what they've said over and over again.
spider and neptune isn't gonna convince anyone that they're right, and no one is gonna convince you two that you're wrong. -
11-26-2011, 04:30 PMNeptuneBecause it's not a matter or right or wrong. It's about helping players or not helping them. I like to help people; some only want to help themselves. It may not be wrong to not help someone, but it doesn't exactly make you an awesome person.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aenarion
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11-26-2011, 09:56 PMRenshi
Come on! Is there a reason to not level every class to 50?
I have one, and that is to experience new content with low classes. That's kinda why my Lancer is still down to 30.
But really, aside that you're a jerk like me, there's no reason to not be 50 in every class. New class, New experience! -
12-04-2011, 05:57 PMNeptune
I'd just like to remind the dev team that this is going to be an important issue in the coming months and the suggestion of this thread would be a great gesture to its few remaining players.
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12-04-2011, 11:56 PMPrettyPrincess
no .
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12-05-2011, 12:01 AMDelsus
Heres what you can do, go buy a weathered cane, get PL, get to 40 in 1 day then SH for another day and you have your 50 con :)
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12-05-2011, 12:07 AMCoglinGee Prettyprincess, why are all your replies so drawn out and complicated like this one?Quote:
Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess
Seriously though, I like agreeing with you, it doesn't happen very often..........
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12-05-2011, 01:24 AMSoukyuuSad but true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delsus
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12-05-2011, 02:14 AMNoctisUmbra
No.
Go and level CNJ if you want to heal and haven't done so already.
Stop mentioning pre-1.18 THM to justify what you're requesting. It's been 2 major patches since those days, and it has been quite clear that CNJ was heading in the direction of specializing in healing. CNJ has been the healer of choice by far since the day 1.18 hit.
Had more than enough time. -
12-05-2011, 02:19 AMindirafunny thing is people need to read the dev post because way back when autoattack was added they said its going to be 3 patches to fix the class system and ongoing fixes, and this anit the vision as tanaka had, yoshi is making everything more of a class. and the community said yes to major changes when we voted, now people want to complain even though it won by a land slide. theres people who even want fatigue back @_@.Quote:
The player already knew very well that they were not leveling a proficient healer, but still... why would you not plan on leveling CON to max as well. That is the point of the armoury system. People should use it.
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12-05-2011, 02:45 AMDreamer
There is zero need for this.
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12-05-2011, 05:15 AMAtoli
I kind of understand the feelings of the OP, when I read the news about class changes I also wished for this, along with being close to ragequitting..:rolleyes:
I played CNJ because it had elemental nukes and ancient spells.
CNJ being a healer which ocasionally blows tiny stones into the air?
What a horrible, horrible idea..but I calmed down.
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12-05-2011, 02:52 PMNeptune
I know this isn't a popular idea amongst forum-goers but I would recommend discussing this idea within the dev team to see if it has any merit.
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12-05-2011, 03:16 PMDeadRiserWhy would it? They told us they were changing everything, it just so happens that mages got the most changes. They basically do what they did before, except CNJ is now THE healer, and THM nukes. Let us choose where to put the some levels LOL some people crack me upQuote:
Originally Posted by Neptune
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12-05-2011, 03:21 PMTheFatHousecat.........................Quote:
Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess
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12-06-2011, 01:48 AMBruceyBruceyBangBangThey probably have and denied it in less than a minute. They know their game better than some people do. Some of these "people" still think it's work to level a class. The answer is still: If you want to become a healer.... level CON.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neptune