That would be a valid point accept while perusing the 63 pages of that thread to make the "most liked" response, I noticed there were more questions about 1.20 and 1.21 than any other topic.Quote:
What if, now this may blow your mind, but there were, wait for it... hardly any questions were asked about 1.20 etc etc, so they just decided to make up the questions.
I've done my research, maybe you and your attitude should go do some too.
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11-06-2011, 11:57 PMSephrick
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11-07-2011, 12:51 AMJinkoLOL at FF11, someones bias is showing !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoltan
Need/Greed will work just fine they already said that they will alter it to work with the switch-able class system.
A lot of those have been answered and are being fixed in the next patch. -
11-07-2011, 12:56 AMgrandm
a really easy solution for any1 that didn't like live letters
if they do another one. don't watch it. don't find the translation's, don't join in any discussion's after the event. plz don't let let this ruin your life -
11-07-2011, 01:48 AMSephrickWhat if I liked the first one? Should I only watch half of the next one?Quote:
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11-07-2011, 01:55 AMgrandmno you should understand that not everything revolves around you. the letters were not made to keep sephirck happy. if you like some good for you. if you didn't like others tough luck. there are ppl out there that did like itQuote:
Originally Posted by Sephrick
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11-07-2011, 02:10 AMSephrickWell, it's a good thing I never said anything about my questions in specific. Just cited some general stuff I've seen asked.Quote:
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11-07-2011, 02:28 AMgrandm
yarn 17 pages of ppl telling you that the latters are not a fail. this thread is a fail, you may have picked up a couple of ppl that believe the carp that your are spouting. but most ppl enjoyed the letters. most ppl dont' need information on 1.19 because playing the game since the patch or talking about the patch on these forums for the last month has been enough to understand what 1.19 is about. we will be getting info on class balancing in 1.20 in a week or so, so we didn't need them to waste our time by talking about something that we are going to find out about in a weeks time anyways. then there is the job system in 1.21. i think the reason we were not told much more than what we already know is coz they are still working on it, and don't want to commit to something now that they might still want to change. here is a hypothetical example for you. they could have told us that monk will be an evade tank, but then after a bit of testing change their mind and make it a DPS. if this was would have ppl complaining (i bet you will be at the front of the queue) "you told us you were going to do this, but then you did this instead"
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11-07-2011, 02:59 AMSephrickActually it's 17 pages of the same two people recycling the same baseless garbage and personal hunches as "facts."Quote:
yarn 17 pages of ppl telling you that the latters are not a fail.
So why advertise specifically 1.19/1.20? If they weren't going discuss it and instead only about 2.0, why didn't they say the theme was 2.0?Quote:
we will be getting info on class balancing in 1.20 in a week or so, so we didn't need them to waste our time by talking about something that we are going to find out about in a weeks time anyways. then there is the job system in 1.21.
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i think the reason we were not told much more than what we already know is coz they are still working on it
Possibly a reasonable notion, except everything they showed was concepts and things still in development. This argument falls in on itself. If they don't show things we're getting in a month because it's still being worked on then there's absolutely no reason things in 2.0 should ever be shown this early.
I wouldn't as long as they just added in a line like "after thorough testing we've deemed evasion tanking to not be viable in this combat system." Which would make sense given the nasty AoEs they like to give bosses.Quote:
they could have told us that monk will be an evade tank, but then after a bit of testing change their mind and make it a DPS. if this was would have ppl complaining (i bet you will be at the front of the queue) "you told us you were going to do this, but then you did this instead"
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11-07-2011, 02:59 AMBethor
Well it's just a let down that they've talked about stuff which is basically too far ahead. A lot of people think "wtf idc". Information about things which are coming in the nearest future would've been better. Or more details at least.
People are tired of answers like "We're looking into it.", or "We don't know if we can do this, but we're going to talk about it.". While I understand that the dev's don't want to give any information which might be taken back at a later time... but hearing that is the same as hearing nothing at all.
But I have to agree with you. Some people expected certain questions and those didnt show up. Of course they're dissapointed thus the letter have failed.
They could've revealed a lot of more information about the game instead of this "bla bla" though ;)
OT: And I only wanted some information about Blue Mage goddamnit /ragequit ;O; -
11-07-2011, 03:11 AMSephrickThis is all I'm trying to say. After a world tour of interviews, the live letter should have gotten down to business. We're the paying (box sales) customers who soon will have to fork over subscription fees. No one but us would have been watching this. They should have taken the chance to tell us about the exclusive year for which we're expected to pay and how the game we enjoy right now will change.Quote:
Well it's just a let down that they've talked about stuff which is basically too far ahead. A lot of people think "wtf idc". Information about things which are coming in the nearest future would've been better. Or more details at least.
Let me emphasize that last piece:
They should have taken the chance to tell us about the exclusive year for which we're expected to pay and how the game we enjoy right now will change. -
11-07-2011, 05:41 AMCharismatic
There's no point in going over this with these folks Sephrick, this whole thing is almost like talking to a brick wall. 'Cept the brick wall wouldn't make you want to facepalm.
You've made your point and anyone with a brain can see where you are coming from, whether they fully agree with your point is of no consequence but these guys obviously cannot even see what you are trying to say even though you've broken it down every which way.
Also, the fanboy defense of 2.0 being 'beyond' 1.20 (WHICH MADE EVERYTHING A-OK) is hilarious to me. Just wanted to put that out in the open. -
11-07-2011, 05:46 AMAnswaSo you wanted spoilers? I didn't want spoilers.Quote:
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11-07-2011, 07:31 AMSephrickWhich of my suggestions were "tell us exactly how the story will unfold"?Quote:
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11-07-2011, 07:40 AMRau
Hi Sephrick!
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11-07-2011, 08:21 AMSephrick<3Quote:
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11-07-2011, 08:27 AMAnswaThe bulk of those changes are coming in the next two patches, with jobs and class adjustments.Quote:
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11-07-2011, 08:32 AMSephrickSweet baby Jeebus...Quote:
Originally Posted by Answa
How many more times imam I going to have tonpoint this out?
Yes they're coming, which is why they're asked about. And the fact they're coming soon would be why they should have been discussed in a PR event that said its discuss things in that time frame. -
11-07-2011, 10:22 AMAnswaI don't understand your writing and I'm not trying to insult you. Please rephrase?Quote:
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11-07-2011, 11:36 AMPhysicthey are coming in the next two patches, and since the subject of the live letter was supposed to be 1.19 1.20 and beyond, he expected more actual information about 1.19 and 1.20 describing those things that are coming soon, rather than things planned for a year from now.Quote:
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so really his beef is the live letter focused more on the pie in the sky one day we will do X, and not these are the things we are definately implementing soon, and how it will change the overall nature of the game. -
11-07-2011, 11:50 AMAnswaTo that, like most others have said, I'll just say that 95% of that info is already out in interviews.Quote:
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11-07-2011, 03:47 PMemblasochist
Hi, Sephrick! Not here to troll you, but I think the bulk of the shit you're catching on this topic relates to you saying that you feel the latest live letter was a "fail", which while I understand where you see that and somewhat agree, I wouldn't have used such a hostile word for it, personally. In the future, I feel that the live letters either need to be scrapped if they come out the way that they did for this one, because, like you, I feel that the intent of the live letters needs to address your concerns with 1.20-1.23 and NOT the 2.0 and beyond content. I have every intention of subscribing once they implement a secure method of doing so (as C&B is not secure, IMO), even if they really aren't focusing on 1.20 players as, for the most part, I am still having fun.
One comment that I have a particular disagreement with you on is your response to one of the "answers" provided in regards to Auction Houses follows below...
"What Action House "features" are coming prior to 2.0 and how will the affect the current ward system?
An AH is coming, well probably buying from the item search, so they will be the same system
Obviously. But what "AH" features are coming? Is a price history the extent of it, or will be be able to buy/sell from the search menu. If so, why are they even keeping the wards? Nix them, make it an AH and free up some server space by getting rid of a few thousand NPCs per server."
Your proposed system, in my opinion, is the right intent, but I feel the wards themselves should NOT go away when you go to AH. The need for hundreds to thousands of NPCs will, hopefully, soon be eliminated, but the wards do one good thing for the servers, IMO; they cut down the lag in town when you're searching for an item on the AH. The wards were intended to reduce lag on the severs on town because they could be instanced, or at least didn't require the development teams to change their design to make the game run effectively with a decent amount of rendering characters and spaces with minimal lag. Admittedly, it hasn't worked as intended, but the proposed changes to the servers in 2.0 seem to further validate the use of the wards being a separate zone than the individual cities. Now, that may open up the concept of having the AH zone being one zone across all cities on the server, or even across servers (potentially, albeit unlikely), but that has its own issues to consider, including the severe unbalancing impact that will make to certain economies...
Finally, to all the people that disagree with Sephrick, if you disagree, you don't have to comment on his post; it'll go away much more quickly if you IGNORE the comments you don't like rather than treating him like he's stupid. He's posted what I feel is a valid set of questions, even if they potentially spoiling the upcoming plans, his questions, and many of the answers people have replied with still suggest that there is work to be done at least in saying something to the effect that work has and will continue to be done to address your concerns.