Patch 1.18a Notes

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08-06-2011, 02:25 AM
Yumi_Hibiki

i pity the fool that runs out of mp as mage...
/Mr. T off
seriously we have plenty of tools to manage it. (main Con here)

1.18a sounds very nice, love the homepoint option
08-06-2011, 02:26 AM
Karbine

Far outweighs the previous a-c patches we've had in terms of the additions and fixes. Looks good, keep it up Yoshi-P/Team. I'm anxiously awaiting the next patch, most fun I've had with the game since release.

A++ Would play again!
08-06-2011, 03:05 AM
Firon

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Originally Posted by Reika

And that means they they should completely abandon EVERYTHING that the game was about? Just because people voted for that doesnt mean everything that was written prior should be made invalid. Unless you want Conj to be made tanks, Gladiators to be made healers, and pugilists to to use jokes as a form of attack, Which would all be valid since all the rules will drasticly change right? While they're at it, Miqo'te can become a carnivorous race that rules over all the others, making them no more than mere food slaves.

Like is said if SE wants GLA to be tanks only it's their choice cause ppl voted for change
08-06-2011, 03:08 AM
Firon

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Originally Posted by Reika

ok, your main attack as gladiator can be stone throw. /thumbsup

I voted for it too, but for them to change things that would be very good and things that currently make a whole lot of sense would be very wrong.

Oh, and Roegydn's are now Lobsters

See you are taking this to far they said they wanted to change the rules, before GLA wasn't intend to be just tank but the new rule now is that they are tanks
08-06-2011, 03:27 AM
Reika

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Originally Posted by Firon

See you are taking this to far they said they wanted to change the rules, before GLA wasn't intend to be just tank but the new rule now is that they are tanks

According to you, there is no such thing as too far, as we decided to have drastic changes to eorzia. Making Roegydn lobsters and carnivorous miqo'te are drastic changes you say you will accept. No one would want that to happen, but hey, we all allowed them the option of doing so.

Now, allowing gladiators to have increased weaponskill potency while not equipped with a shield is realistic. I see no reason to be against it.
08-06-2011, 03:29 AM
Dubont

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Originally Posted by Yumi_Hibiki

i pity the fool that runs out of mp as mage...
/Mr. T off
seriously we have plenty of tools to manage it. (main Con here)

1.18a sounds very nice, love the homepoint option

main CON but r34. Wait until you have to main heal in the r45 dungeon.
08-06-2011, 04:24 AM
LillithaFenimore

God...I feel like a few parts of this thread was a Jerry Springer show O.o; good lord.
08-06-2011, 04:27 AM
SniperRifle

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Originally Posted by Dubont

main CON but r34. Wait until you have to main heal in the r45 dungeon.

I noticed that she was R34 CON as well but that doesn't change the fact there were R50 CON's who could main heal + clear the R45 dungeon 48 hours after the dungeon was released. Plus with 1.19 we'll be able to cast while in passive, making mana regeneration that much easier to come by.
08-06-2011, 04:55 AM
Rynithon

Yeah awesome mini patch before the next big patch of 1.19. Love that I can continue leveling my mining in grade 5 zones without running into aggro mobs that will murder me. Extra UI enhancements are always nice, love the Home Point thing and they did it right it sounds like.

Think I am even more excited about the "Sea" changes in the ferry. Gives me so much hope that they will be visually improving the game! Yeah!
08-06-2011, 05:08 AM
Reinheart

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Originally Posted by Rynithon

Think I am even more excited about the "Sea" changes in the ferry. Gives me so much hope that they will be visually improving the game! Yeah!

Watch everyone is gonna be on the Ferry day of the patch just to check it out lol
08-06-2011, 05:28 AM
Alyssa

I hope everyone's /pose looks exactly like the miqote's. That would be excellent.
08-06-2011, 05:32 AM
redmage

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Originally Posted by Alyssa

I hope everyone's /pose looks exactly like the miqote's. That would be excellent.

I'm crossing my fingers when I get on my Roegadyn!
08-06-2011, 05:34 AM
Holyomen

Call me greedy, but I would of liked to see an increase in normal attack damage as well as throwing weapons.

Setting home point gets a big thumbs up.
08-06-2011, 05:49 AM
Reika

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Originally Posted by Alyssa

I hope everyone's /pose looks exactly like the miqote's. That would be excellent.

I don't want to see any Roegydn's pose like that ^^;
08-06-2011, 05:50 AM
Rynithon

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

Watch everyone is gonna be on the Ferry day of the patch just to check it out lol

Haha you know it! I will be for sure. Probably crash the ferry server.
08-06-2011, 05:53 AM
Lerris

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Originally Posted by Sorel

One of the things the community wanted was earlier patch notes so that we could have a chance to give some pre-feedback before implementation (e.g. increase curing MP costs by 150% instead of 200% please).

Maybe the Development Team is taking our advice.

I don't believe patch notes come out until the patch is ready. So any pre-releasing doesn't generate feedback in time. And since the community has a negative knee-jerk reaction to change, any feedback they receive from the patch notes is far less useful than actual gameplay feedback.

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Originally Posted by Reika

I voted for it too, but for them to change things that would be very good and things that currently make a whole lot of sense would be very wrong.

This isn't change for the sake of change. This is a response to the related question which indicated that the community wanted defined class roles. Everybody gets to go from being a generalist to being pigeonholed into a particular role.
08-06-2011, 05:53 AM
Exn

Great patch notes. Looking forward to having a real home point again! Still no mention of decent party flag/recruitment options tho.. :(

I think the MP consumption is just fine for mages, but I agree that it's a bit overkill when using cures thru a 'subjob'. This only really matters for solo play, but so far.. that's alot of what ppl do these days. I guess since I can still solo 4star r40 leves, its not so bad that it DEMANDS a fix.. but when my buffs drop, i get maybe 2 cure2's in if im lucky! How can I solo 5stars like that! :p
08-06-2011, 06:01 AM
Chain

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Originally Posted by Burne

Curious if the textural changes for the sea while riding the ferry have anything to do with the upcoming summer event. Maybe we'll take the ferry to a beach instance for sexy time poses!

It's most likely just changes to the water around the bow of the boat to give it a feeling of motion. Currently the boat feels like you're Stationary.

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Originally Posted by Exn

I think the MP consumption is just fine for mages, but I agree that it's a bit overkill when using cures thru a 'subjob'. This only really matters for solo play, but so far.. that's alot of what ppl do these days. I guess since I can still solo 4star r40 leves, its not so bad that it DEMANDS a fix.. but when my buffs drop, i get maybe 2 cure2's in if im lucky! How can I solo 5stars like that! :p

Working as intended then, they are trying to move away from the superman Icandoeverythingyoucando gameplay and push people into more designated roles.
08-06-2011, 06:03 AM
Jennestia

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Originally Posted by Evangela

no healing MP cost fix?

LOLPATCH 1.18a

What fix? They already fixed it in 1.18.
08-06-2011, 06:12 AM
AeraLucis

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Originally Posted by Darkoon

What command is that kitty performing? /pose slutty?

It's the simple "Bend and Snap". All girls know it.
08-06-2011, 06:17 AM
Reika

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Originally Posted by Lerris

I don't believe patch notes come out until the patch is ready. So any pre-releasing doesn't generate feedback in time. And since the community has a negative knee-jerk reaction to change, any feedback they receive from the patch notes is far less useful than actual gameplay feedback.

This isn't change for the sake of change. This is a response to the related question which indicated that the community wanted defined class roles. Everybody gets to go from being a generalist to being pigeonholed into a particular role.

I was actually talking about making it so gladiators do more damage with no shield equipped, like it was meant to be months ago ^^. Im glad all the others are getting the damage boosts they need to counter the risk of melee combat, gladiator is still just mr shield guy. At least marauders can tank multi-monster groups better than gladiator still (holding aggression), and do great damage with the update.
08-06-2011, 06:20 AM
Dreadnought

question about MP cuz i honestly dont know...
ok i havent done the dungeons yet and only played a good 4 days on my THM before i decided to wait for 1.19
stygian spikes doesnt seem to give very much MP back and ethers are pretty much useless. exhaltation is great but its a 10 min cool down. standing replenishes MP but that makes you a bad mage if your in a party.
so, if your in a long fight or a long run and your constantly running out of MP, what do you do? stygian spikes doesnt do me any good in a party, ethers are useless and alot of MP useage happens within a 10 min cooldown.
so what are the mages currently doing in party situations for MP regen after nuking/enfeebling/healing for so long?
08-06-2011, 06:21 AM
AlphaDragoon

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Originally Posted by Reika

What about gladiator? Still feeling pidgeonholed as a tank/paladin. I remember reading this:

"Gladiators specialize in the handling of all manner of one–handed blades, from daggers to longswords, be they single– or double–edged, straight or curved. A defining characteristic of the guild is its emphasis on diverse combat tactics, training its members to bring their martial skills to bear in any situation.
As such, there are practitioners who marry sword with shield, seeking to defend their fellow companions. Others opt for an empty off hand, choosing instead to focus entirely on their sword arm. The gladiator’s proficiency with blades also extends to those hurled at range, such as throwing knives."

What ever happened to the bold part ey? I think gladiator attack potencies should be increased when there is no shield equipped.

This, so much. Every other melee class gets a buff except for us Glads. Just because I enjoy using a sword on my characters doesn't mean I wanna be stuck as a low damage tank.

We're a melee class too, SE. We'd like some attack buffs.
08-06-2011, 06:22 AM
Etienn

http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/to.../f6/1075_8.jpg

This pic is it really available? i mean the clothes on the generated model are they currently in game..?
08-06-2011, 06:25 AM
Jennestia

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Originally Posted by AlphaDragoon

This, so much. Every other melee class gets a buff except for us Glads. Just because I enjoy using a sword on my characters doesn't mean I wanna be stuck as a low damage tank.

We're a melee class too, SE. We'd like some attack buffs.

Classes aren't...anything right now which is why they're releasing Jobs to compliment it.

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Originally Posted by Etienn

http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/to.../f6/1075_8.jpg

This pic is it really available? i mean the clothes on the generated model are they currently in game..?

Pretty sure it is as my character is wearing it it may be slightly different, but it's one of the many coatee sets out.
08-06-2011, 06:31 AM
AeraLucis

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Originally Posted by Etienn

http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/to.../f6/1075_8.jpg

This pic is it really available? i mean the clothes on the generated model are they currently in game..?

Yeah, its linen crafting gear, if I remember correctly.
08-06-2011, 06:35 AM
CrystalArisia

Soooo no swimsuits?
08-06-2011, 07:21 AM
Alyssa

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Originally Posted by Reika

I don't want to see any Roegydn's pose like that ^^;

Don't lie! :eek:
08-06-2011, 07:54 AM
Hikozaemon

simian thrash needs the evade function removed w/ SE trying to bring GLA in the limelight w/ better tanking abilities it makes simian thrash obsolete in a party format in a lot of situations. MAR seemed to get stiffed slightly on adjustments MAR gains TP slower than other jobs; attacks slower and is impacted more often from missing attack. Mar needs an acc increasing ability, attk increasing ability or possibly double attk like they have maybe hinted at. Arch does too much dmg for a job that is at a lot less risk of dieing. An Arch should not be hitting harder than MAR or LNC period; especially if archer has less of a base delay.

Why didnt Skull Sunder get a dmg buff it is one of MARs main tools for DDing . Makes no sense that PUG and LNC are gettin buffs to there favored TP attacks and MAR is gettin shafted in comparison by there patch notes. I hope there is a increase to the base dmg of MAR LNC and possibly PUG to further balance things out.
08-06-2011, 07:55 AM
Jynx

I wonder what poised them to make the /pose animation....Not that I'm complaining or anything just wonder what my Elvaan male will do...
08-06-2011, 08:04 AM
Reika

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

Classes aren't...anything right now which is why they're releasing Jobs to compliment it.

Reguardless, classes are the thing in the now. Gladiators should get an appropriate damage buff as well while not using a shield.
08-06-2011, 08:08 AM
SuzakuCMX

No summer event yet :[
08-06-2011, 08:46 AM
Etienn

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Originally Posted by CrystalArisia

Soooo no swimsuits?

Patience is a virtue, just wait until they release 1.18a, then you will get your event ^_^.
08-06-2011, 08:47 AM
Rhomagus

Classes aren't jobs.
08-06-2011, 08:49 AM
Etienn

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Originally Posted by Rhomagus

Classes aren't jobs.

What are they, I place a class, it is my current job, the job system is not here yet.
08-06-2011, 08:51 AM
Jennestia

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Originally Posted by Reika

Reguardless, classes are the thing in the now. Gladiators should get an appropriate damage buff as well while not using a shield.

We don't know what they're doing with the job system yet -- If they buff Gladiator to be something it originally wasn't designed as (it's very obviously designed to use a sword and shield) you're pretty much delaying the job system and forcing them to rebalance something for no reason.

The most they'll do is buff skills, which has been proven they're more than ready to do.
08-06-2011, 08:59 AM
Reika

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

We don't know what they're doing with the job system yet -- If they buff Gladiator to be something it originally wasn't designed as (it's very obviously designed to use a sword and shield) you're pretty much delaying the job system and forcing them to rebalance something for no reason.

The most they'll do is buff skills, which has been proven they're more than ready to do.

You missed the tidbit of gladiator lore in my previous post. Written, without a shield, the gladiator focuses on the sword arm. meaning more damage. And it isnt delaying anything, its already been said there are teams working on various different aspects. I guess they can go ahead and just buff gladiator skills, with or without shield? simple, yet not how it is meant to be.

No one has been mentioning gladiator when discussing the risks of new boss fights, and that is why they were overlooked for buffage. I am mentioning them now.
08-06-2011, 09:14 AM
Alyssa

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Originally Posted by Jynx

I wonder what poised them to make the /pose animation...

I think they're probably just trying to bring more sex appeal to the game.
08-06-2011, 09:22 AM
miqokini

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Originally Posted by Alyssa

I think they're probably just trying to bring more sex appeal to the game.

First bikinis, now /pose... what next!? (theories are welcomed)
08-06-2011, 09:26 AM
Rhomagus

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Originally Posted by Etienn

What are they, I place a class, it is my current job, the job system is not here yet.

You can put almost any abilities you want on any class.

Classes aren't jobs.

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