"If you die twice, you're out"

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Originally Posted by ruskie

I will intentionally ignore any PF groups with "exp only, N-wipes and kick" and such crap - even when I'm experienced in a fight(and I have a theory that a lot of others do as well - purely from experiments of have a group with that and one without and see which one fills up faster). Especially when I see people that actually have no experience in a fight advertise with that. Be truthful about it - if people want to help others they will help.

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And people have touched upon this in the thread already. The majority of those groups are either people who really DO know what they're doing and just want it done, or someone who wants to be carried. I've personally seen both, join some and wipe for multiple 60 minute periods. Join 2 others the other day and both one shot him. And the thing is, even WITH those rules, people who can't complete the content still join, since you can't tell what someone's skill is without seeing it first hand. In any case, there's still nothing wrong with making the rules, ignore them or join them, your choice. It's meant to TRY and keep away the people that know they are inexperienced and will mess up from joining.

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Originally Posted by Gandora

Its what is being done since the begining, you wnt it to stop? why did you do it from the begining?

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You've done a great job of shitting this thread up.

When 2.1 launched, my friend and I spent hours upon hours learning the EX Primal fights. I made learning parties and only joined those clearly labeled as such. We were both at the point that we could execute the fight almost flawlessly so we started joining and making parties specifically to clear and farm. Grinding those fights out for hours made me realize just how entitled some of this community is. Players with no idea how to do the fight would constantly join these parties (clearly labeled as such) and waste the time of 7 other people. Hell, what made it worse is that it should have been obvious that they were holding the group back, but they persisted while not learning from their failures and forced me to actually remove them. Don't cry if you're kicked from a party if you refuse to put time into learning the fights like the rest of us did. Your time is not more valuable than the seven other people in the group.

Tl;dr : Descriptions exist in the Party Finder for a reason. If you don't meet the requirements of a party DO NOT JOIN IT. Spend the time learning the fights like the rest of us.

Sad, but this is partly why I cancelled my sub last week. Jerk reflex skill test is the sole endgame.... Nothing FUN about it at all. Worst end game content I've seen in an MMO. I'd understand 'some' but 100% .....

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Originally Posted by Gandora

Its what is being done since the begining, you wnt it to stop? why did you do it from the begining?

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With your crappy meme picture responses, I highly doubt you understood or even made the attempt to understand what I meant at all.

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Originally Posted by Faedden

Bro, go re-read. Let it process.

Fan boys are so quick to attack lol.

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It's sis, and I read your post twice (my bad I know).
I am not a "fanboy/girl" nor a "white knight": love this game, but am not blind to its shortcomings, minor and major.
Said that, I stand my point: saying that there is nothing, or almost nothing, to do in this game is plain false. Say anything else, like that you find everything dull and boring. I'd disagree, but could not say it's false. :P