Can someone tell me why everyone is upset about the logout timer?

Just cause login issues have eased up somewhat now, doesn't mean they won't return. When a big patch or an expac comes out, there will probably be a rush to login again. And even if people AFK'ing weren't causing issues, it was a point of contention for the people who weren't able to login. If you are being told the world is full while your friends are saying there are a ton of zombies just staring at Aetheryte crystals around the world for hours, it is irritating.

Besides the few real flimsy reasons I see for people having "legit" reasons to want to AFK longer than 30 minutes are just that, flimsy. Not worth the angst not having the timer creates.

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Originally Posted by Onimal

The problem with AFK Timers comes in during instances. I have had many times where an FC'er needs to take his kid to school or something, which means he's gone for 30 min. So all of us just take a 1quick break and come back. THis timer will prevent that, which is lame.

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You’re way more patient that I am. If an FC’er asked to take a +30min break in the middle on an instance to run a completely predictable errand, I’d be feeling pretty put off… and you’re saying this happens a lot to you? IMO making your fellow FC’ers wait in instance for +30min is lame and I’m glad this timer will prevent that.

I just hope at a later time they give us the option to turn it off, like they did in FFXI. I'm in a roleplaying linkshell, and while I don't have much time to play myself, I liked to be able to come back and scroll up to read the stories I have missed in the chatlog. It was always like reading a good novel written by my friends ^^

I can't think of any other MMO that doesn't utilize some sort of bazaar feature that doesn't have an auto disconnect timer. With no such feature in the game, there is literally no reason NOT to have it. Even WoW has a 30 min timer, and I never saw anyone complaining about that in all my years of playing.

Now I'm sure people did complain, but they were simply the vast vast minority. Same is the case here. They'll be loud at first but they will die down if people just ignore them.

I agree, 30 min is plenty of time to take a bio, grab a quick bite. if you need more time. LOG OUT!

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Originally Posted by Ratm3000

Because you are paying for the service, hence you should be able to do whatever you want (AFK). SE needs to get better servers, F2P MMOs have better servers then SE. You are basically telling them it's alright for you to have bad servers will still pay for them.

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Not if it makes the experience worse for other paying customers. You're still forgetting that digital sales are restricted. That'll be a whole new wave of players. It's a great precautionary measure and most MMOs already have this feature, some with even shorter timers.

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Originally Posted by Moth

The issue of the server being full has been fixed, so I don't understand why they implemented this auto-timeout feature in the first place. It is pointless. Also, when I am queuing for a duty finder for my DRG, it takes a little while to get one, lately it takes longer than 30 mins. Now i'll have to be worrying about running around every 20 mins so I don't get timed-out of the que.

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If it's like most other games with this feature, you can just walk forward one step. That's all it takes for the game to reset your timer. If you're doing something where it's too much of an inconvenience to poke the "W" key once every thirty minutes, you probably shouldn't be logged into the game in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Moth

I like leaving my character up in the world at night just because it is what I've always done in MMOs. It's just another aspect that makes this game not feel like an MMO anymore, just some dungeon spammer.

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There are a lot of things that make an MMO an MMO, and "being able to stay logged in 24/7 for no real reason, even when I'm out of the house, because I dunno, why not, whatever?" is nowhere on that list to me. It's just common courtesy; especially in light of the 1017 issues, population caps, and server queues (which still happen occasionally on some of the more populated servers). If you're not actively playing, have the decency to log out so other people can get a turn as well.

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Originally Posted by Kanzer

I can't think of any other MMO that doesn't utilize some sort of bazaar feature that doesn't have an auto disconnect timer. With no such feature in the game, there is literally no reason NOT to have it. Even WoW has a 30 min timer, and I never saw anyone complaining about that in all my years of playing.

Now I'm sure people did complain, but they were simply the vast vast minority. Same is the case here. They'll be loud at first but they will die down if people just ignore them.

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There are many players, especially DD's, who que for dungeons for more than 30 mins quite often. Auto-timeout should be an optional feature in the system config. for people like you, but it is not for everyone.

The bottom line is there is no reason for people to complain about the AFK timer. If you have something to do IRL then go do it. Keep the wife and kids happy. Yur IRL issues are not a justification for you to "need" to be AFK for longer then 30 min. and use up server resources that hundreds of other people that are actually playing need. If IRL requires that much attention log out and then log back when your task is complete. The game will still be here.

IMO the afk logout must screw up the crafting botters.

There is zero legitimate reason for a character to be sitting around for 30+ minutes unattended.

The people crying are cheating or exploiting in some way and this is affecting it.

Logging in isn't a problem anymore. If you get bounced, it takes a few seconds to get back in. Not a big deal - for someone who's actually playing.

I challenge the whiners to post a single legitimate reason for needing their character to sit in the game unattended for 30+ minutes.