Regarding Results of Maintenance (Sep. 4): Follow-up

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Originally Posted by PureEclipse

1. People not able to play with their guild/communities due to server limitations
2. People not able to log in due to server limitations
3. People unable to buy the game due to server limitations
4. People considering not paying after the first month due to frustration due to server limitations

see a pattern forming here?

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The only pattern I see here is constant ignorance and entitlement.

As far as I'm concerned this maintenance was sorely needed.
I was able to log on this morning which was amazing, considering usually I couldn't log in till after 10pm EST. Granted, I've yet to see how it fares during peak hours for my region but the fact that I can actually log in and play during non-peak hours is progress.

Yes, there are measures that are being taken to control the influx of people but those measures are temporary.
And yes, some people are experiencing problems but that is to be expected.
However, people need to man up to the fact that things are getting better and they are getting better in a timely fashion.
Moreover, yes, we all paid for the game but they haven't started charging people the monthly service fee- even the people from 1.0 like myself. All of the new players still have their free month.
Bottom line, the game works but the servers are still a little unstable. Be patient and it will clear up in due time.

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Originally Posted by SUpremacy13

So McDonald's isn't going anywhere either and so by your logic you would wait to eat a hamburger you ordered for a day? Two days? A week?

Seriously, this is beyond being patient. This is beyond being reasonable. What is happening here is a lack of goods and services for paying customers. In almost all cultures this is considered theft...

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Lol, bad analogy is bad analogy, comparing a video game to food lol too funny. And theft? wow, even funnier lol, i can't lol enough.

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Originally Posted by Alcide

Honestly I find comments like this one to be more irritating than the actual issue, you're just being naive here.
People are not complaining over some crazy demand, yea, you could say it's just a game, get over it, do something else, but the thing is we paid for a service we're not getting and it's a pretty big deal. We can be understanding for one or two days, we can wait patiently once they give us a date with a promised fix, but after that comes a point where a customer deserves to get angry. And if I wanna go and yell at the customer service i can feel totally entitled to do so, since even their salaries are paid with the money i spent for the service i'm still not getting.

If I screw up at my work constantly for over a week noone is gonna be understanding, I just lose my job.

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Its not the issue they are complaining about, its the content of the complaint. Also, people are complaining like its a personal affront or like SE just doesn't care. Neither is the case. SE wants you to all log in and many more and are working to make that happen. I'm sure they are just as upset about these errors as you are. I find people attitudes about the issues to be more irritating than the issue itself. especially the

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we paid for a service we're not getting

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part.

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Originally Posted by SUpremacy13

So McDonald's isn't going anywhere either and so by your logic you would wait to eat a hamburger you ordered for a day? Two days? A week?

Seriously, this is beyond being patient. This is beyond being reasonable. What is happening here is a lack of goods and services for paying customers. In almost all cultures this is considered theft...

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You still have your "free days/month", as long as you haven't paid a monthly sub and or lost anytime. Then all I see at this point is point whining over not playing. SE didn't steal anything as of yet ( until they charge you a sub) and things are still this way then all of this bickering would be justified.

I know everyone wants to play, but SE is trying hard to fix these issues so everyone can play.

Got in first try, and a friend was able to create a new char on my server first try. First impressions of the maintenance was a success for me. I realize we may be the exception (1%-ers if you will), but it makes me hopeful since I had previously been a part of the 'hours w/o logging In' crowd.

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Originally Posted by AarosLunos

The only pattern I see here is constant ignorance and entitlement.

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What entitlement I was stating some facts about business in general. I am being patient and have not done any name calling only stated some things that are self evident. Please do not personally attack a general statement about monetary gains and losses, I have a guild with over 30 people and half already stated they are done, that's 15 subs less a month already and that's just my guild due to these issues, want the game to succeed? Bet you its not putting limitations on EVERYTHING including forum post counts. I am more than willing to discuss stuff, but lets leave the blatant name calling or accusations out of it okay?

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Originally Posted by PureEclipse

I am being patient and have not done any name calling only stated some things that are self evident. Please do not personally attack a general statement about monetary gains and losses, I have a guild with over 30 people and half already stated they are done, that's 15 subs less a month already and that's just my guild due to these issues, want the game to succeed?

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My comment really wasn't 100% directed at you. But making assumptions based off what your guild mates say really doesn't equate to trends for the entire population. With my FC/LS, while there has been some discontent over the server issues, no one has really threatened to quit over it. I think a lot of people need to take a step back and look at the situation more objectively and without blind rage like so many people here. If you are being patient, I certainly applaud you for doing so, more people around here could learn from that.

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Originally Posted by AarosLunos

SNIP.

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Well I thought it was from the general context my apologies to you as well, and yes im being patient for what its worth which is sad for me since I did get a whole week off from college this week and was super excited, its more like a 75% excitement atm tho...my super concern is just trying to get all my friends (guild) onto one server and atm its not looking super promising, I did see on the mog station that transfers where coming soon but not sure how it will be done yet. Anyroad,

time for tea.

So basically SE is screwing players over still. 1017 for ever. They need to hold 15k each not half that