When is Square Enix going to start taking the state of the game seriously?

I bought the CE aswell and you don't see me complaining. I look at it this Way. $70 for the game, would have cost me well over that amount JUST for subscription.

Sure I would love more info but its not owed to me nor do I feel it is my right to demand it. Plus we all know they are currently working in the bottle Rehaul along with AA and smaller things aswell.

Patience is a really good thing to invest in at times like these.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

Bolded for emphasis. Nobody made you buy this game except yourself. SE owes you nothing.

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I disagree. They should have been able to deliver a lot more than they did at release. The game was just as empty as it was in beta, nothing changed between the version were testing and the retail copy. Absolutely no content. Excuse me for expecting a lot more from a company I've come to love and trust. They do owe me something better than what I paid for and got or they've lost a longtime customer.

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

And once again, this is what you get for blindly assuming "It has FF in it, it must be good" instead of waiting for reviews to come out.

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I assumed nothing, i didn't even buy the game. However when i saw the reviews i was disappointed in SE as a company. Had i bought the game i would have been disappointed even more.

Again, it is perfectly legitimate to say "I paid 70$ for this crap, do something to make it worth it."
If they don't do it, it will hurt them even more in the long run. Or do you think it's no big deal for them to keep all the servers up for free? They are desperate to minimize the PR impact of this failure.

Am i really expressing such difficult concepts here?

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Originally Posted by Kirith

I assumed nothing, i didn't even buy the game. However when i saw the reviews i was disappointed in SE as a company. Had i bought the game i would have been disappointed even more.

Again, it is perfectly legitimate to say "I paid 70$ for this crap, do something to make it worth it."
If they don't do it, it will hurt them even more in the long run. Or do you think it's no big deal for them to keep all the servers up for free? They are desperate to minimize the PR impact of this failure.

Am i really expressing such difficult concepts here?

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And SE is aware of this and trying to bring the game back from the dead, you're getting a free ride until the game gets better. What the hell more do you want them to give you?

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

And SE is aware of this and trying to bring the game back from the dead, you're getting a free ride until the game gets better. What the hell more do you want them to give you?

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I'm not getting a "free ride". I am not a masochist, so i won't play a game i can't have fun in. Big deal having a free ride in a broken car. I have only returned around a week ago after i got told the new fixes had made this game playable, but i'm not spending my evenings in it anyway. Even the economy is broken now.

SE is lucky many people are so desperate to start the game advantaged they go and spend months crafting and leveling, even admitting they are only doing it to have a "head start" over others.

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Originally Posted by Kirith

I'm not getting a "free ride". I am not a masochist, so i won't play a game i can't have fun in. Big deal having a free ride in a broken car. I have only returned around a week ago after i got told the new fixes had made this game playable, but i'm not spending my evenings in it anyway. Even the economy is broken now.

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Then wait for them to revamp the systems? Simple as that. I don't like the state the game is in either but I'm at least trying to make the best of it instead of coming to the forums and crying like some huge injustice has been done.

i am really quite aggravated with the lack of update, last night me and few LS mates played monopoly online and thats the most fun i had this month playing an MMO..... thats saying something :(

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Well....it's because FFXIII was "linear", given the fact every FF game internally was linear with pre-rendered backgrounds and a overworld map you'll eventually explore in full (near the end of the game) as said it was no different from other FF games.

FFVII, "THE GREATEST FF EVER" you spent all of disk 1 in midgar, then you get to the overworld map, you're told to go straight to Kalm, can you do anything else before hearing the backstory and learning about chocobos? Nope. That's linearity.

Hell, XIII's datalogs went "in depth" on things most FFs just completely ignore.

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Thats my point. All the Final Fantasy's follow the same exact linear design but when you get to FFXIII people complain that its too Linear and doesn't play like Past FF's when it plays MORE like past FF's then FFXII did.

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

Thats my point. All the Final Fantasy's follow the same exact linear design but when you get to FFXIII people complain that its too Linear and doesn't play like Past FF's when it plays MORE like past FF's then FFXII did.

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No it doesn't, because the "challenge" and "fun" of finding one NPC out of 100 NPC's in any given town/area is gone. Man, I loved the thrill of speaking to every single NPC just to progress the story, not to mention the excitement of having to hunt each weapon, armor and ingredient from separate shops in separate towns.

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Originally Posted by Winterclaw

I would argue that FF14's problem isn't was that it wasn't open, it was that the story was bad.

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Pretty much every story since FF10 has been like that ever since Sakaguchi left if you ask me. Nothing really has stood out since then, just a predictable storyline with less than memorable characters.