City of Nym [Anonymoose]

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Originally Posted by Mjollnir

What, creating in-depth posts that may or may not be uncovering deep secrets of lore depending on whether various in-game text should be taken as canon, or is instead merely throw-away space-filler..?

Or were you talking about being distracted by cookies?

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Those are the second and third most time-consuming parts, respectively. :P

Piecing it all back together is what takes the longest. Comparing saved logs to GamerEscape plot details to user fansites to Japanese Lodestone blogs, etc. to make sure I've got everything. Not everyone talks to every NPC involved, after all.

Sometimes the hardest part of the entire process is having the text that was said and not knowing who the hells said it. I'm just going to suspend one of my cardinal rules and talk about this topic for a moment. Seeing as SE actively endorsed ZAM for it doing it, it's probably not a big issue, anyway, lol.

Let's say you wanted to troll the game's DAT files to build a site like ZAM, Mozk Tabetai, or Mooglebox, except for quest dialogue. Unfortunately, as far as we can tell, the mechanism that ties what was said to who said it is a short command from Square Enix's servers... so the site might end up with complete transcripts, but they'd be entirely out of order with no way of telling who said what.

Therefore, projects like Loremonger are like gluing together a smashed mirror. I don't suspect there will be many who have the patience for it, though I do hope those that do sign on to assist!

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

no way of telling who said what.

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The reason why Gridania was able to overcome this was because I accidentally pre-prepped. I copy-pasted text from the game's log into a forum post and then utilised it once Moose came along with the loremonger project. I'll be trying to do the same in ARR, but probably with files stored in a dropbox.

So while Moose takes a trip down memory lane on most of the version 1.x content, my plan is to prep ARR text for him.
Once we have server structures organised, I'll let people know what servers I plan doing my Loremonger research on - you can then bug me in-game and ask for a dropbox invite if you'd like to contribute.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

I don't suspect there will be many who have the patience for it, though I do hope those that do sign on to assist!

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Hit me up through Gahoo's site if you've got anything that requires patience. I get an enormous sense of achievement from completing things that have required patience.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

I don't suspect there will be many who have the patience for it, though I do hope those that do sign on to assist!

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I love puzzles, and have an incredibly high tolerance for tedium. Hit me up on GamerEscape (same name), I'd love to help.

Kinda of topic, but who was that horned kid?

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Originally Posted by Pwnagraphic

Kinda of topic, but who was that horned kid?

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He's a Padjal. Not sure which one you're looking at, but the more commonly known Padjal are E-Sumi-Yan (boy) and Kan-E-Senna (girl)

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Originally Posted by Yrusama

He's a Padjal. Not sure which one you're looking at, but the more commonly known Padjal are E-Sumi-Yan (boy) and Kan-E-Senna (girl)

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And if memory serves me well...
You cannot forget the spunky Raya-O-Senna that guides you down the path of the White Mage

Hey, if we're name-dropping, don't forget O-App-Pesi from the Gridanian Main Storyline!

Fine fine, I'll play along:

Kan-E-Senna - Leader of the Twin Adder and representative of Gridania and its company

A-Ruhn-Senna - Youngest looking of the Senna family - seen in the Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak communing with the endangered moogles

Raya-O-Senna - Younger sister of Kan-E; opinionated and firy - quite independent

E-Sumi-Yan - Very important to the in-echo storyline of Gridania's introduction; still master of the CNJ guild (?)

O-App-Pesi - Highly adept student of the conjury guildmaster; very sensitive to communing with the forest

O-Isam-Nene - Mentioned during All Saints' but I never met the guy

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

firy

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What, like a fir-tree?

Oh those 'e's do run away from you Lalamoose.

Also: have you noticed that if you take the single letter from each of their names and rearrange them, you get "AEEOOO!" which is Mooglespeak for "The Echo".