SE Rep - can you share with us the criteria for selection of Alpha testers

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11-27-2012, 01:24 AM
Cedri

The real reason for the NDA; they didn't want anyone knowing they lied.
11-27-2012, 01:27 AM
Vilhem

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Originally Posted by Cedri

The real reason for the NDA; they didn't want anyone knowing they lied.

Right! It's always a conspiracy against us! It's always the company looking for ways to hate on us!

...seriously, just no. <_<
11-27-2012, 01:29 AM
Delsus

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Originally Posted by Phe

Listen.
The average MMO player doesn't give a sh*t if a game succeeds or not.
either he likes a game or he quits and starts a new one.

the true fans actually want the game to succeed.
they have an INTEREST to give feedback and make it better.

Now you listen "Must currently have an active FINAL FANTASY XIV account" Therefore EVERYONE who go it has paid for at least the last month, why would they do that if they weren't a fan of the game, the average MMO player sees FFXIV as an absolute fail, I got told by a friend "Why are you still playing the fail version, just wait for ARR" so why would people like that pay to see the final event?

EVERYONE that is in the alpha has interest in the game, the difference is most people posting with all the butthurt (like you) just want to play, I bet you wouldn't even mention a bug if you were in, yes I wanted to get in, yes I'm disappointed I aren't in but meh life goes on.

Also if the game is polished well in alpha it may bring back people who quit, people who are posting now will come back when ARR releases, if they can show off how polished the game is to people on the fence it may aid the games success.
11-27-2012, 01:29 AM
RexValentino

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Originally Posted by Enma

The point is that people who played few months (and I mean 1-2 month since release) are inside. No matter if they are active or inactive, it's just... silly. :|

In the original post, and posts like this people are claiming things about the alpha testers that were selected. But! .... I echo what i read in another post ... where are you getting this info?

If people are posting they got in, they violate the agreement right? ... If there really are people posting that they got in, it would make sense that only those that played a little and don't really care about staying(?) would post they got in and risk losing the spot.... maybe? I'm sure if any hardcore player got an invite, he/she wouldn't risk losing that by breaking the Non Disclosure Agreement and posting that they got in.

Also, i'm sure tons of people will just lie. XD

Jumping to conclusions, or having knee jerk reactions is very easy ... and sometimes hard to suppress. I have these responses initially too, sometimes. The best thing i find is to give some time and think about things, and posts, and try to apply some logic. I avoid a lot of self inflicted heartache and frustration that way. XD

Good luck with the future invites. :)
11-27-2012, 01:32 AM
NefarioCall

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11-27-2012, 01:35 AM
Elexia

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Originally Posted by Vilhem

How about no Lol >< Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but enough of this "we should get some consolation prize". Seen it in CE threads, Legacy threads, "I been with 1.0 since the start" threads.

You do realize it's customary in Japan to give Consolation Prizes, right? Seems only the western world would have a problem with something like that.
11-27-2012, 01:37 AM
Gugnir

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Originally Posted by KiraHime

As far as I can see its like this.

People who arent currently paying have no access to the forum and cannot talk about this issue
People who are paying and did not get in are becoming a vocal minority (i see the same 10-20 names over and over)
People who are paying and got in are on the alpha forums enjoying them selves talking about upcoming alpha events so not posting here, and even if they did, would not flaunt their access.

So all we have on this forum now are a bunch of whiny kids crying that they they feel entitled.

Well guess what, in a test phase you need people who havent been around as much as you need people who have.

You need people from all walks of life to get a wide variety of feedback. People who quit early were more critical and less forgiving, their feedback is as important, if not more important, than the casuals with rose tinted glasses.
The hardcores are also important, people who dedicate themselves to pushing the game and breaking mechanics to make themselves OP so jobs can be balanced.

Just because you didnt get in doesnt mean SE doesnt love you, it means you were unlucky.

Deal with it.

All I caught from that last post was "Deal with it." Nuff said. Long time no see Junpei! /salute
11-27-2012, 01:38 AM
Vilhem

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Originally Posted by Elexia

You do realize it's customary in Japan to give Consolation Prizes, right? Seems only the western world would have a problem with something like that.

I don't mind consolation prizes, but if you're bitching and insisting on getting them for dumb reasons, then no. And the examples on these forums are just that.
11-27-2012, 01:45 AM
Phe

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Originally Posted by Delsus

EVERYONE that is in the alpha has interest in the game

the question is still:
why would SE send an invitation to someone who quit after the trial instead of a legacy member.
(and it was reported that this happened).
my point is:
The desire to make the game a success and/or the willingness to improve the game by giving feedback and report bugs is higher as a FF14 fan who played it all along than a guy who quit after trial.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

I bet you wouldn't even mention a bug if you were in

You might lose that bet since i actually reported 2 bugs during 1.0 beta as well.
11-27-2012, 01:48 AM
Delsus

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Originally Posted by Phe

the question is still:
why would SE send an invitation to someone who quit after the trial instead of a legacy member.
(and it was reported that this happened).
my point is:
The desire to make the game a success and/or the willingness to improve the game by giving feedback and report bugs is higher as a FF14 fan who played it all along than a guy who quit after trial.

You might lose that bet since i actually reported 2 bugs during 1.0 beta as well.

2 whole bugs, in a game that was full of them, wow you really made a difference.

The question remains, why are you so butthurt over not getting an Alpha invite?

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