We all get it. You don't like jumping. Let's discuss something else worthwhile now.

Jumping? No, until I am able to soar through the air on wings like in Perfect World I will not be happy! D=<

Alright, alright. We'll stop talking about Jumping.

So how 'bout that GRASS?

I want jumping. I like jumping.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Yep, the "shut up" is why I feel ARR will fail, once NA get into alpha and people start posting concerns and feedback, you'll get the same people telling them to shut up lol.

Yoshida is smart, but he listens to the loudest group, and the loudest group are the ones telling people to stfu and gtfo currently. Jumping is an eye sore in a game with a realistic appeal to it's graphics, which is why while Uncharted is a good game..hax jumping all over the place like Nathan does just looks silly when you step back and look at aesthetics of the game.

I can understand some people's concerns with Jumping, especially since jumping serves no purpose but to just jump..we won't be exploring with it (it's already apparent even just from these videos), so some people feel it shouldn't even be there..cool...however, the animations are a bigger issue. While he says there's no physics in until beta, that could change things..but for now it just looks..off.

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I don't know, I guess the vocal majority consists of forum goers but then again he has a lot of alpha feedback we aren't even aware of and also those players polls seem to be a fantastic idea which they REALLY listen to

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Originally Posted by Judge_Xero

I enjoy seeing a debate, but I'm also getting tired.
I'm not going to let a Lvl 1 Marauder ruin my Immersion. :) - Even if they did experience all of Version 1 as a lvl 1.

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If you wanna see the actual character Elexia plays as, one of these two:
Razaroic Ashtur, Durandal (secondary character tied to Lodestone Forums)
Elexia Higashikuni, Durandal (main character used on Youtube).

Who are you? My mother?

Let people focus on issues they care about. Don't try to police what they should be concerned about.

That being said, you have a point. It's good to reevaluate the issues that will effect us most as we play the game
It should be a good sign when the complaints are focused on the asthetics but that dosn't mean these issues are unimportant to our experience. If you don't think it should be taken up as an issue, stay out of the conversation. That's why I only made two posts about the marriage issue. I ultimately think it's a nonissue that we're not suited to tackle, but I wasn't about to ask people not to talk about it.

Yes, I agree, how about making a thread on The gear sets that make you have a piece of equipment for EACH gear set, wtf are they thinking? How are you supposed to have two rare/ex drops when you can barely get one??!! Why is no one saying anything about this?????????

OH yeah about the GRASS why aren't people posting threads asking for the use of game mods like skyrim does?? Add your OWN pretty grass! !!!!!1one

There's a difference between showing concern on the important aspect of the game versus showing concern on something that already being implemented very well...and that is jump!
Currently jump exist which is better than not having jump and the jump animation is to majority of people already happy with it but the very few are nitpicking down to the extreme and expecting it to life like! That's the problem I have with.

We should be displaying concern on the more important of the game like, game contents be it end game, jobs and class, battle mechanics, the user interface, and such.

Yoshi is smart guy and he will listen to what makes sense for this game. Asking to make jump to be life like is unrealistic request when the fact is Yoshi is giving us the ability to jump and its got good enough animation and yes it can improve a little more but some complain and request certain things that are far unrealistic.

It's like for example, you get an offer for a job that pays well with full benefit included and the company pays 100% of the benefit, but the person is asking for a salary rate of an extra 30% which is pushing and is not being realistic in their choice.

Another example, a guy wants to have a girl friend and or wife that cooks, have a full time job, take care of the kids, put up with sex everyday. Thats an unrealistic.

We gain some and we will lose some. FFXIV 2.0 Alpha is going in the right directions so far, but we've yet to even play the global alpha yet. Once we play alpha we can provide more feedback on important aspect of the critical part of the game such as battle mechanics, Exping, lag, party system, synthesis, bestiary ai, environment, maps, and other things that are important to the overall game that makeys it appealing to the mass.
And not about jumping not being reasltic enough...

I agree with mog and his OP.

But let's agree on something else--creation of repeat topics is a two-way problem. Firstly it's a problem with players not using the search function, or if they do they don't give a shit and just make a new thread about the SAME thing anyway. Secondly it's. problem with awful forum moderation. Threads of simar topic should merged. On top of that topics that belong in other sections should be moved there. General discussion shouldn't be a dumping ground for mental diarrhea.

Posters need to learn what forum etiquette is and the mods should make a sticky in this section that outlines the rules. One of those rules ought to be that if you think this forum is your personal blog, you should just be banned. Get a livejournal ffs.

Jumping is here to stay, stfu about it already.

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People are complaining and showing concern about stuff that's laid before them. Unless you purposefully adverted your eyes from leak materials, you'll realize that SE has a long way to go with certain things if they expect to really make this game succeed.

However, everything you post basically says people should accept everything SE does and gives us.

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Not really. You've been throwing the whole "generic" diatribe since quested leveling and duty finder were revealed. Then you went on about how XIV will be like every other MMO just because it has some features that have become standard.

Jumping is a stupid thing to complain over. As I mentioned long ago, the Ji Firepaw controversy (someone bitched loud enough to get Blizzard to change Ji's dialogue because apparently him telling female player characters that they're good looking is sexist and offensive) has a better base in reality than what I've seen on these forums over jumping. And I thought that thing was also stupid as all hell. Just not to the lows the jump hate has reached.

As Mog states, it's also preventing discussion on more important topics. I understand that concrete information is scarce because we have few details on character progression aside what Yoshida has mentioned, dungeon design has been barely touched upon, class design (especially for arcanist/summoner) is still a bunch of base concepts without any ability examples or gameplay videos, boss fights relative to the new battle system are still a mystery, and so on. The fixation on something as trivial as jumping is going to hurt the game more than any feature from Rift, WoW or GW2 ported into XIV.

Odd is the day when I agree with Mog.