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Originally Posted by Pretz

I see why you might think this, but having "capped" stats for your weapon doesn't come with any magical bonus. If you have capped stats on a Giantsgall and change to a Garuda weapon, you're better off since the DPS is used in the final damage calculation for WS's. So the "single largest benefit of Garuda's Axe" is the increase in DPS. Even if you can't cap stats on it.

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Yes there is an increase in DPS, like i said, but without adding 10 more STR you're still gonna be pretty damn close DMG-wise to the giantsgall, which is why it's better to have the giantsgall axe with enmity. I never said there is a magical bonus. The bonus comes from more STR/VIT, that's it, but 10 STR is fairly significant. If you do go out and adjust your gear for the higher stat caps, garuda's axe will be better enmity-wise in addition to DMG output. Then there is the case of pure DPS, (ie., not tanking) in that case garuda's axe is always better than a giantsgall axe.

@elexia thanks i think you conveyed what i was trying to say better than i did.

@OP dude seriously do your research before you say something. "comparing a turd to a gold bar" huh? Once again plz do yourself a favor and (just for instance) check out bows. You wanna talk turds, look at a crab bow compared to garuda's spine. THAT is no comparison. The current order of weapons is as follows: Relic>Garuda>Giantsgall. Now i understand there is some deviation but im using bows as the example. Giantsgall weapons are not the best, nor should they be based on the difficulty of the content. However they are one of the best atm, especially if you double meld them. (my only complaint about the bow is it is on the slow side)

here's some numbers for you mouth breathers who think i'm wrong:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...1E&output=html

Notice the enmity column at the end. It simply takes 34 enmity added to a Giantsgall Axe to get higher enmity than Garuda's Axe. I've done my homework, now prove me wrong.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

here's some numbers for you mouth breathers who think i'm wrong:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...1E&output=html

Notice the enmity column at the end. It simply takes 34 enmity added to a Giantsgall Axe to get higher enmity than Garuda's Axe. I've done my homework, now prove me wrong.

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those numbers are per hit, garuda has a lower delay so its actually more...

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

those numbers are per hit, garuda has a lower delay so its actually more...

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no it's not, it's based on dps. meaning the delay is factored in. I told you, I've done my homework this time. You are simply wrong.

Even having said that, weapon delay can be circumvented to a large extent by using a throwing weapon. But if you were that much better of a tank than I as you claim you are, you would know that.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

you can continue being wrong then.

The single largest benefit of Garuda's axe, as you yourself pointed out, is that you can add more STR before you hit the cap. But that doesn't do any good if you don't take advantage of it and actually add more STR. To do so requires at least triple melded STR gloves with +50 or more STR, which I assure you, most players do not have.

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Just going to throw my two cents in here. Garuda's axe has 15 more acc which could help a lot when tanking considering pld and war have the lowest accuracy. And I'm pretty sure stat caps are based on your weapon's damage and weaponskill damage is based on your weapon's dps. So Giantsgall would have higher stat caps than garuda weapons.

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Originally Posted by Ryans

Just going to throw my two cents in here. Garuda's axe has 15 more acc which could help a lot when tanking considering pld and war have the lowest accuracy. And I'm pretty sure stat caps are based on your weapon's damage and weaponskill damage is based on your weapon's dps. So Giantsgall would have higher stat caps than garuda weapons.

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The formula that SE used to determine stat caps uses the weapon dps as displayed on the weapon itself; the higher the number, the more of your primary and secondary stat you can add to the rest of your gear before the bonus to AA damage tapers off. After which, it's more effective damage-wise to add attack power. The spreadsheet I linked to is based on test results (many hundreds if not thousands of parses done by different people), I just added a few weapons to it and added the enmity column based on some enmity test results that have been posted here.

As for enmity; We know that one point in damage = one point of enmity, (that could be up for debate, but since the point of contention lies with my next point i'll just get to it) and that every point of enmity on your gear is worth a .1% bonus to total enmity. (or that for every 10 points you get a 1% bonus to enmity) The spreadsheet factors in acc and other bonuses for the weapons as well as your stats from your other gear. (At the time I entered all the stats mine were 324 STR / 318 VIT) If I alter them to be 350/320 or the caps with Garuda's axe, then we can see that it wins (enmity-wise) hands down, regardless of wheather we've added 50 enmity to a giantsgall which is probably where the OP is getting confused. In either case, Garuda's axe always will out DPS a giantsgall axe, unless maybe in the case of a serious triple or quad meld, but who has that kind of gil or luck?

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Originally Posted by Dhalmel

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Yeah, but it's way more interesting now.

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Originally Posted by Dhalmel

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i honestly don't care if they add a hard mode or not, but the content is such a joke that even casuals should be embarrassed to be doing it. Fighting chimera i felt like i was attacking a helpless puppy that wouldn't fight back.