Old Players, New Worlds - A problem arises?

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Originally Posted by beryuyu

Everyone wants to bring their riches over to a new world and dominate that world. Well that ain't happening and if it is, you'll need to pay a server transfer fee which imo is very fair to old and new players. Roll a fresh character if you want to play with your friends that badly. Good thing on my part, I have no friends so I don't have a dilemma like this.

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The dilemma for me isn't whether or not I can play with friends, it's whether or not I'm going to be punished for supporting Square-Enix and FFXIV by having my character - the one I've been leveling under the pretense of keeping him in 2.0, the one who has a number of achievements and items that won't be obtainable in 2.0 - restricted to a server that for all we know may remain a Japanese server after the re-launch, in which case I'll be subject to continued latency issues, as well as a lack of new English-speaking players who will all most likely migrate to the new regional servers instead. The regional server issue might also mean that there aren't many players on in my timezone's primetime, leaving me at a disadvantage for content.

Also as a roleplayer, if Yoshi-P follows through on his plans for an official roleplaying server, that means I'm stuck either having to reroll and again, lose everything I worked for under the pretense of keeping my character, or waiting for transfers to become available, meanwhile missing out on the burgeoning community that is (or at least should be) so important to roleplaying in an MMO.

~Senses ulterior motives~

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

We will be setting up fresh new Worlds for the new players so that they build the economy from the ground up and if an existing player wanted to play on a new World, they would have to create a new character on that World.

New players wanting to play with existing players will be able to create a new character on their World as long as the population limit has not been reached. We currently have no plans of setting up a new World where existing players can transfer to right at launch.

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If I'm not mistaken aren't there going to be servers based on region now? So how will the current servers region location be determined? Currently we have people from all around the world playing on servers together that are located physically in Japan. Why aren't we being given an option to transfer to a NA or EU server at 2.0 release?

A rose by any other name is still a rose. A Partial Gil Wipe by any other name is still a Partial Gil wipe. I do understand the reasoning for it. It was ridiculously easy to make Gil in the beginning and SE is trying to correct that. SE should just be honest about it and not hide behind this NPC Gil sink crap. Based upon Rukkirii's response SE is still planning a free market economy. While things will stabilize for a few months we will be right back where we started after that. If we are going to have to remain on established worlds with established players then I would recommend that SE caps the starting Gil level at 99,999,999 and let everyone keep what they have up to that point. Seems fairer to me. then dropping everyones Gil by 90%. Just my opinion

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Originally Posted by Medura

you could get conjurer to level 50 in 2 hours, and having physical level at 50 from that made it easy to get next class up.

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um.... no you couldnt.

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Originally Posted by Kassatsu

If I'm not mistaken aren't there going to be servers based on region now? So how will the current servers region location be determined? Currently we have people from all around the world playing on servers together that are located physically in Japan. Why aren't we being given an option to transfer to a NA or EU server at 2.0 release?

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I actually am confused by the amount of info we have been given about this very issue. I am not saying we havent been given enough, only that its been ambiguous and in pieces. I have seen posts that seem to say no existing players will be able to transfer right away when 2.0 comes up, and have seen others that seem to indicate we will all (new players and old) get a 1 time chance to pick any server we want (except "new" servers for veteren players) when 2.0 launches since they are doing regional servers, but after that one choice we won't be able to move again for a while. And I know some asshat out there will be like "whats to be confused about"?! but in all fairness, of all the posts they have made on this issue, I have yet to see one that is crystal clear on what will happen on day 1 of 2.0 when thousands of veteran players will be sitting down to remake their existing characters. Would love some confirmation on this so I know what to tell my LS mates before the 11th.

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

We will be setting up fresh new Worlds for the new players so that they build the economy from the ground up and if an existing player wanted to play on a new World, they would have to create a new character on that World.

New players wanting to play with existing players will be able to create a new character on their World as long as the population limit has not been reached. We currently have no plans of setting up a new World where existing players can transfer to right at launch.

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I must agree with many of the other post here as to problems if all the existing worlds are to remain on JP servers. Please tell us that the existing worlds will be spread out to the various reagons and if that is the case then we should have the right to move to those servers. That would fulfill SEs desired intention of keeping existing players together while allowing for those people to play in their reagons.

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Originally Posted by Babydoll

That is kind of dumb, I have a lot of people who want to play with me..and since I am currently on the most populated server it will probably fill up fast -_- Should just let everyone pick fresh..that at least is fair. I don't want to be forced to pay to play with my friends for a server change or even better - have my friends get frustrated not being able to play on my server and then just giving up entirely. Which probably is what will happen.

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Sounds good idea, but if they permit that they need to wipe everyones gil, to be fair indeed

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Originally Posted by Felis

Doing a leve, don't break the leve for better exp but finish the leve to get the reward was in your eyes an exploit? really funny you are ^^

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You're correct in that it's hard to view it as an 'exploit', except in the sense the SE designer who made it such that leves paid 1m was clearly smoking something I'd like to try when he did it. So, while not exploiting a 'bug' it was certainly exploiting an asinine design flaw.

Sadly, whatever you choose to call it, the repercussions of that and several other well known 'bugs', and I have no doubt many others we never knew about, resulted in a fundamentally broken economy of the 'haves' and 'have nots', and there's no conceivable way that will change any time soon.

The 90% nerf to players' current worth is actually going to exacerbate it, it's also inconceivable that prices in the markets will drop 90%, all that'll happen is that many of the 'have nots' will be frozen out of the economy altogether.

The biggest irony to me is that this move by SE will encourage the RMT botters even more, they'll rush in and fill the gap.

Dalamud is going to wipe these forums clean. 2.0 meteor is really just a biggass pacifier on the backside. It's gonna spin around when it gets close, break into a million pieces and fall into the mouths of millions of whiners very soon.