Please stop destroying the playerbase + fix blacklist

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Originally Posted by xbahax92

Trust me, same here. But their practices is beyond understanding and I feel like we're about to see even more from now on.
The last 3-parts set was just testing grounds. How far customers are willed to pay for seperate items.

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and the worst part about the 3-part leather belt set, its been listed under their best sellers section top ten listed items on mogstation/online store for the last two(?)ish months since release...

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Originally Posted by ViinaS

I's pesky how people just constantly ignore the issues that may arise if people that liked Mare quit.

It's not purely about the Joe-Shmoe that used it to attend venues. It's the ones behind those venues that put effort into it all and organized the player driven content.

The strawman of all users of Mare being pure RP Limsa AFKers is also just dumb.
These were people that needed Mare to stay subbed?

Why is that? It is cause that was the content that made them subbed after they were done with the patch or expansion content after a month and had a content drought like everyone else for 3-4 months till the next patch (depending how fast they were done with the new content).

They may not quit, but will turn from constantly subbed to "eh maybe this month to keep my house or when the new content for 2 weeks drops"

And I hope they do, SE deserves to make less money if they only shovel out content with no longevity every 4-5 months.
Ideally they finally add more QoL and RP features into the game (NOT via the cash shop SE, I know what you are thinking)

Hope certain people can still understand that and look past their hateboner while drowning in smugness.

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people managed to make interesting creative RP venues even before it existed, they just simply stopped cos of the convenience the plugins and mods provided. Coupled with the fact that numerous folks in different threads have been pointing out that it also barred vanilla and console users from such venues or rp interactions simply cos they didnt use it, its safe to assume why folks are coming to this conclusion(and before you say this isnt true, i implore you to go around and see other relevant threads and the replies of people who have felt they been excluded).
and lets be honest, most folks will return when the replacement comes in like usual as we've had hiccups like this before.

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Originally Posted by yesnt

While I understand that the TOS was technically broken

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You know that one line from Liar Liar?

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Originally Posted by Shialan

It's wild how people like you celebrate for people to get fed up with this game.

Like, you do realize that you gain nothing from players leaving, right?

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Odd you don't have the humility to admit your previous post was either just confirmation that it's only 5% of the player base that used this program or that you didn't math correctly and didn't know 25-100k out of 1mil is 2.5-10% which was claimed. Instead of confronting your error, you sweep it under the rug.

I do have something to gain from them leaving, my account ID isn't getting scrubbed by their program. Y'all need to research why you need to do your due diligence when installing unauthorized programs, look up what Gshade did to the XIV community a few years ago to see how messed up some 'good guy' developers can be. The fact this program logged account IDs to begin with is a horrible security flaw that shouldn't be handled by a 3rd party program, ever.

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Originally Posted by ViinaS

I's pesky how people just constantly ignore the issues that may arise if people that liked Mare quit.

It's not purely about the Joe-Shmoe that used it to attend venues. It's the ones behind those venues that put effort into it all and organized the player driven content.

The strawman of all users of Mare being pure RP Limsa AFKers is also just dumb.
These were people that needed Mare to stay subbed?

Why is that? It is cause that was the content that made them subbed after they were done with the patch or expansion content after a month and had a content drought like everyone else for 3-4 months till the next patch (depending how fast they were done with the new content).

They may not quit, but will turn from constantly subbed to "eh maybe this month to keep my house or when the new content for 2 weeks drops"

And I hope they do, SE deserves to make less money if they only shovel out content with no longevity every 4-5 months.
Ideally they finally add more QoL and RP features into the game (NOT via the cash shop SE, I know what you are thinking)

Hope certain people can still understand that and look past their hateboner while drowning in smugness.

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As a role-player, I'm not entirely convinced Mare was a net gain for the community. When it got big, actual role-playing venues were replaced by clubs and brothels in Party Finder. While correlation isn't causation and I'm sure there's other issues impacting things (Dawntrail losing players, the big RP servers being closed for half a year now, etc) Mare certain made the "not-really-role-playing-but-seen-as-part-of-the-role-playing community" bigger.

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Originally Posted by Shialan

There were between 25k and 120k active users of that plugin, depending on the time and day. The same amount as players on Steam.

Active playerbase for XIV in general is under 1 million.




Even if they don't like the general game, they like it still enough to pay a monthly fee to be able to socialize with other players.

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yes but how many of those are going to " quit " over the end of a plugin... The game was fine in 2019 before it came out

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Originally Posted by Darty123

yes but how many of those are going to " quit " over the end of a plugin... The game was fine in 2019 before it came out

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some think it's about inclusivity furries non binary and all those thing I don't get not gonna lie and don't wanna either. like well I believe in science and everyone get upset when you don't respect those choices but are forcing them on people. like isn't a double standard? my biggest problem with the thing is alot of player changed the gender of the character they are as. like a female miqo turned into a male something and when you get it wrong they report you to GM.


I think SE might have catered to much toward all of them that they forget the other part of the playerbase.


I see LGBTQIA+ worst then politics

People used mare, and use mods, because game fully lacks of any good modern character customization. We have old faces and all characters looks the same.
Maybe try to focus on reasons?

Same for blacklist. its completely useless, it has 200 slots, no autoremove feature, no DF filtering. For example I like to play a conjurer, and have a lot of annoying players (especially mentors) who tells me how to play or these losers even votekick me, I would like to filter them out from my DF.
Or I see a music bot band, who have awful taste in music, so I would like to add them to blacklist, but **Temporary**

i doubt that any dedicated raider would quit the game, because he cant see big t*** goth girls and modbeasts anymore

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

i doubt that any dedicated raider would quit the game, because he cant see big t*** goth girls and modbeasts anymore

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Right but they would if ACT went away.