Content creator irresponsibility in covering #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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Originally Posted by Hakane_Mitsu

Even Mr Happy of all people said in his latest Q&A, no one cares for this movement, quicker you guys realise this, quicker we can all go back to having fun :)

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I will have fun as soon as Sage gets more attacks and isn't just spamming Dosis for almost the entire fight :)

This thread was honestly a mistake that only serves to fuel later videos and takes that will clown on the #healerstrike more.

By this point in time, people that might be aware of it have already made up their minds, with video creators/journo article writers/forum posters/whatever providing their input. People that have gotten a glance at the situation have already made up their minds and written things off with the upcoming hype for new expansion. The people that suggested to unsub to hurt their wallet to get squenix to maybe have been dogpiled there and back again, so that ends that discussion. And every other post or point on the main thread keeps circling back and forth, with some thoughts being outright ignored in favor of more provocative statements.

If you keep making threads as a defense on any videos that come out with their own takes, in the long run it's going to hurt the look of #healerstrike. It's going to make the people in support of #healerstrike look neurotic and paper-skinned if things that have been going on in the main thread hasn't had some accomplishment in that already. Fine if you want to be unhappy, just don't get so bent out of shape you start lashing out at everyone and everything; you'll just get more people to instinctively side against you and stop taking you seriously.

See you in 7.0 and good luck.

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Originally Posted by Manamaru

This thread was honestly a mistake that only serves to fuel later videos and takes that will clown on the #healerstrike more.

By this point in time, people that might be aware of it have already made up their minds, with video creators/journo article writers/forum posters/whatever providing their input. People that have gotten a glance at the situation have already made up their minds and written things off with the upcoming hype for new expansion. The people that suggested to unsub to hurt their wallet to get squenix to maybe have been dogpiled there and back again, so that ends that discussion. And every other post or point on the main thread keeps circling back and forth, with some thoughts being outright ignored in favor of more provocative statements.

If you keep making threads as a defense on any videos that come out with their own takes, in the long run it's going to hurt the look of #healerstrike. It's going to make the people in support of #healerstrike look neurotic and paper-skinned if things that have been going on in the main thread hasn't had some accomplishment in that already. Fine if you want to be unhappy, just don't get so bent out of shape you start lashing out at everyone and everything; you'll just get more people to instinctively side against you and stop taking you seriously.

See you in 7.0 and good luck.

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If you ask me the whole movement was doomed from the start by calling it a "strike". Now that whole topic's become such a bloated mess of a debacle that I'm surprised content creators even wanna touch it.

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Originally Posted by Manamaru

This thread was honestly a mistake that only serves to fuel later videos and takes that will clown on the #healerstrike more.

By this point in time, people that might be aware of it have already made up their minds, with video creators/journo article writers/forum posters/whatever providing their input. People that have gotten a glance at the situation have already made up their minds and written things off with the upcoming hype for new expansion. The people that suggested to unsub to hurt their wallet to get squenix to maybe have been dogpiled there and back again, so that ends that discussion. And every other post or point on the main thread keeps circling back and forth, with some thoughts being outright ignored in favor of more provocative statements.

If you keep making threads as a defense on any videos that come out with their own takes, in the long run it's going to hurt the look of #healerstrike. It's going to make the people in support of #healerstrike look neurotic and paper-skinned if things that have been going on in the main thread hasn't had some accomplishment in that already. Fine if you want to be unhappy, just don't get so bent out of shape you start lashing out at everyone and everything; you'll just get more people to instinctively side against you and stop taking you seriously.

See you in 7.0 and good luck.

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Do as I say, not as I do. I'm pretty sure square enix will side with its customers as opposed to "content creator."

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Originally Posted by Manamaru

people that suggested to unsub to hurt their wallet to get squenix to maybe have been dogpiled there and back again

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Look like you already made up your mind. But that is not what happened.

It wasn't really about a helpful suggestion to unsubscribe. The response to that suggestion was that unsubscribing was not the intent of the strike, or the players that supported the strike, and pointing out the obvious problems with providing feedback for a game you aren't subscribed to. They kept going on and on about how healers couldn't be taken serious if they weren't willing to unsubscribe, and how it would really be in the healer's own interest to unsubscribe, while ignoring the counter arguments. That changed from possibly a misguided suggestion trying to be helpful, to a very obvious attempt to dismiss the complaints by showing the healers weren't even serious enough to unsubscribe.

And besides that, it's rather creepy for a stranger to try involve themselves in a personal choice like what subscriptions you have for what services. Even more so if they continue after being told it's unwanted advice.

The only way to reasonably see that as innocent people getting dogpiled, is if you only read the tail end of that.

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Originally Posted by Manamaru

with some thoughts being outright ignored in favor of more provocative statements

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No idea what point you exactly mean, but stuff like that can happen at times. The thread often moved to fast to respond to everything. And many things were already discussed multiple times, but brought up time and again as if completely new.

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Originally Posted by Manamaru

just don't get so bent out of shape you start lashing out at everyone and everything; you'll just get more people to instinctively side against you and stop taking you seriously

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I agree with that sentiment. But that should be applied fairly, so also to people being unreasonably harsh against the strike.

Content creators and Playerbase should work together on what they agree on that should change to make the game better. Pointing fingers and telling each other you don't matter if you don't have all Crafting Recipes or have cleared every Savage/Ultimate just makes the game and it's Community worse. Not better.

MMOs thrive off of Community. Not who got the quickest clear in Ultimate or who crafted everything first.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Content creators and Playerbase should work together on what they agree on that should change to make the game better. Pointing fingers and telling each other you don't matter if you don't have all Crafting Recipes or have cleared every Savage/Ultimate just makes the game and it's Community worse. Not better.

MMOs thrive off of Community. Not who got the quickest clear in Ultimate or who crafted everything first.

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Tell that to the 30+ content creators judging people over a video game lol.

It really is peak cringe.

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Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe

Tell that to the 30+ content creators judging people over a video game lol.

It really is peak cringe.

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Eh I left a comment that covers what I said but most have the mentality of a worn out leather shoe.

So angry for so long they have grown too used to their anger it becomes a new comfortable state of mind and can't think any other way. So the cycle will continue.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Content creators and Playerbase should work together on what they agree on that should change to make the game better. Pointing fingers and telling each other you don't matter if you don't have all Crafting Recipes or have cleared every Savage/Ultimate just makes the game and it's Community worse. Not better.

MMOs thrive off of Community. Not who got the quickest clear in Ultimate or who crafted everything first.

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The player base itself doesn't agree and content creators are just players themselves.

Thinking there's going to be any sort of agreement is naive at best. Just look at the main thread. There are many different opinions being expressed in there by players who are healers mains, players who don't main but do play healer, players who don't play healer beyond getting it to level cap, and players who don't play healer at all.

You're going to have a hard time getting content creators to cover it in the manner you want if they personally don't believe the problem exists or feel that the strike is an overreaction to the problems.

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Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe

Tell that to the 30+ content creators judging people over a video game lol.

It really is peak cringe.

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It goes both ways. Why are people judging other people (who happen to be content creators) over their opinions about a video game?

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

The player base itself doesn't agree and content creators are just players themselves.

Thinking there's going to be any sort of agreement is naive at best. Just look at the main thread. There are many different opinions being expressed in there by players who are healers mains, players who don't main but do play healer, players who don't play healer beyond getting it to level cap, and players who don't play healer at all.

You're going to have a hard time getting content creators to cover it in the manner you want if they personally don't believe the problem exists or feel that the strike is an overreaction to the problems.

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Eh better to have tried then to not try at all.