Third-party Tools Can Negatively Affect Players Not Using Them

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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

You don't notice good mentors because most the time they do their job and that's it. Only on very rare occasions do you actually have to do any actual mentoring while doing the mentor roulette. However it's super easy to remember a bad mentor or mentors leaving. Heck a ton of people even assume someone leaving is a mentor without ever actually even knowing.

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As a Mentor, I agree with this, you have no idea how many mentor DC on purpose just to be kicked 5 minute later in order to avoid the 30 minute penalty.

I reported a really good amount of those player, abusing the mecanics of the game on purpose (Strangely, those mentor don't have ANY problem at all when they are in content that are NOT Extreme, but they always got DC when they spawn in one... Don't tell me it's a coincidence, I won't believe you).

I can't say if they were all banned, but some of them definitely were, cause they just disappeared not long after, never to be seen again.

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Originally Posted by Caseal

that's the funny thing, act doesn't read data that is outputted normally, it forcefully extracts data from network packets
if sqex were to hide combat logs it would not hinder act in any way

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It would, if you are not producing any numbers to read from, removal of the battle log and its way to store data on your PC.

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Originally Posted by Mosha

Within the active player base, I would say it is a lot higher than 10% just walk around the Quicksands on Balmung and see how many plates have Mare in the bio. Just mare and we aren't talking about ACT or Dalamud as a whole, 3rd party-tools are ubiquitous at this point.

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Oh, I wholeheartedly agree. That was a very conservative estimation just to highlight how big a loss even just 100k would be. At this point, there is zero chance SE would ever risk the enormous backlash breaking third party programs would have.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

It would, if you are not producing any numbers to read from, removal of the battle log and its way to store data on your PC.

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It doesn't read from the battle log it reads the network packets removing the battle log would have zero effect on how ACT gets its data. For example: the battle log doesn't log the player's position but ACT is able to capture that as proved by the replay feature on fflogs.

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Originally Posted by Dillon0_o

Pretty disgraceful that players are gating others out of raids because they don't have an addon.

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Originally Posted by TabrisOmbrelame

As a Mentor, I agree with this, you have no idea how many mentor DC on purpose just to be kicked 5 minute later in order to avoid the 30 minute penalty.

I reported a really good amount of those player, abusing the mecanics of the game on purpose (Strangely, those mentor don't have ANY problem at all when they are in content that are NOT Extreme, but they always got DC when they spawn in one... Don't tell me it's a coincidence, I won't believe you).

I can't say if they were all banned, but some of them definitely were, cause they just disappeared not long after, never to be seen again.

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Imagine losing your account because you couldnt be bothered to take a 30 minute penalty. To actually get clapped they gotta do it repeatedly so your reports definitely mattered there.

Pretty crazy that ToS means nothing in this game.

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Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa

Pretty crazy that ToS means nothing in this game.

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When you only have 2 security guards and the entire place is being robbed by a mob, your not going to catch very many people.

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Originally Posted by Dirwen

I'm tired of these cheaters always trying to justify their cheating saying it has no impact on others when it does. They have an overwhelming advantage over console players and those that don't use cheats.

Cheaters does have an impact so many times I lose queue in roulette cause these cheaters can see what dungeon/trial is popping with their cheats so they can withdraw. Making me wait in queue longer.

These cheaters are just as bad as rmt if not worse. Cheaters also cry the loudest saying there is no content or stuff is too easy yet they can't do anything without cheating.

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There is a difference between outright cheating [vis a vis the zoom hack in TOP] and mare/texture modders. Most of us texture modders hate the cheaters as much as you do.

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Originally Posted by redheadturk

There is a difference between outright cheating [vis a vis the zoom hack in TOP] and mare/texture modders. Most of us texture modders hate the cheaters as much as you do.

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I'd sacrifice both if means having none left over.