Genuine Question for Frequent Negative Posters

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Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo

[*]Do you overall dislike the game?

If not:
1. What do you still enjoy about the game?
2. Why the frequent focus on negative aspects?
3. Is it just that there's nothing to say about the good parts or is it something else?

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Not everything I post is negative, but yes I still enjoy this game.

1. The story, the community, the FF nostalgia, the costumes and collecting, just having fun overall.

2. When the game is frustrating or an aspect of it is not enjoyable, I feel it necessary to give feedback so improvements can be made.

3. What would you like me to say about them? I feel it's less necessary to bring up aspects of the game that are not frustrating me.

I get a lot of flak around here for speaking my mind, and I may come off harsh at times, but I do genuinely enjoy FFXIV. I would have stopped paying for it if I wasn't enjoying it.

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Originally Posted by Mcg55ss

And yet world of Warcraft just had a post yesterday about an article that had final fantasy 14 number one MMO and wow retail number 3 and most were defending that final fantas 14 was number one they were complaining that they thought number three was too high for retail that it should be out of the top five.

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If you mean the WoW sub then that subreddit is literally filled with more FF14 players than WoW players and players that havent played WoW in 10 years but still decide to have an opinion on it. They pretty much overran the subreddit around 2 years ago and the mods didnt care.

But aside from that, what even is your point?

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Originally Posted by Shinkuno

The only thing they do is release buggy / overtuned content and then gaslight people like you that dont even do the content that they ToTaLly TeStEd it and mock high end players that they must "just be bad"

If you actually did content youd realize that this game would massively benefit from a test server

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Only thing I haven't done is ultimate, criterion savage and some pandemonium savages. I tend to not really enjoy that content type or I go back much later on and play it when it is 'even easier' but from all the MMOs I've played over the years I don't feel this game needs a test server honestly. WoW and ESO do not benefit greatly from it...its not any different they keep screwing with things or not listening to what people want. Not saying it wouldn't benefit from it cause it probably would but its not in a dire way that it needs one asap. I don't feel gaslit by the devs in the slightest, I just sit in the back and benefit mainly from people like yourself who spend most of their time being critical of aspects. I love the game, I have spent 7k hours in it....I have taken breaks I am playing other stuff and hey if I get a better game from it so be it at the behest of you and others being vocal.

Also to another post I can't even second screen the game as I play on PS5...even have it on my steamdeck lol I don't think I have ever second screened or had this on the side...not even during this whole post patch fiasco. I just log in do what I want and leave I don't see the need to try and squeeze blood from stone. I would love to spend more time here but in its current state I can actually go through my backlog or watch shows or work on my hobbies. Beforehand I was putting in so much time into this game because I like a lot of the content types it provides and that was at the cost of every other release in the last few years so now I am glad to let content build up for a 6.55 - 7.0 binge.

The things l don't like are in a tolerable level. So, l would try to complain So maybe it get some change, But l do still want to play the game.

The OP and others are missing the point. Lets say I complain about housing every time that an issue pops up or a new thread wanders its way onto the front page. Does that mean I hate the game, no the game just has a bad housing system. Or mogstation items, does that mean I hate crafting, no the game doesn't seem to have a decent cash shop. I don't think it is online with other games at all. So because I enjoyed Eureka or some other content I should never comment about how bad the cash shop is? I to this day don't believe that it is completely separate and takes zero time from the team working on the game.



Most of the complaints feel more peripheral over actual core design. Them adding less content. That isn't really a core issue. Or them selling X amount of expansions and then being shocked when those people login and try to play the game, after instancing all the story and not having enough instance servers. I would say if a new decent tab target type combat game came along the people that complain about peripheral issues would probably try out the new game.

Maybe I'm really lucky but I haven't run into any bugs in FFXIV that I can remember. Meanwhile in ESO people couldn't block (a basic combat function) for months.

I still play to occasionally do harder content with friends. I'm playing other games with the remainder of my time. I already have the Necromancer title. I don't enjoy FATE grinding. I have my house and apartment decorated. I come back for a few weeks around major patch drops, but this game doesn't make content with a lot of longevity for me anymore.

FFXIV just has the most terribly-designed healers I've ever seen in a video game, and their stated design direction for all of the jobs doesn't look much brighter. I'm not here to complain about the periphery; I think this game's PVE design for combat jobs is an embarrassing blight on an otherwise alright game, and their absolute refusal to hire more designers, inject some creativity, or design jobs (not named Black Mage) for anyone who has more than six brain cells or whines incessantly that having any skill expression in combat is too haaaaaarrrrrrrd is a direction I'll rail against for as long as railing against it entertains me.

Basic human behaviour : people don't go saying "ho this is good" when thing go good. They do complain when things go bad, though. It's simple as that.

You don't go telling your electricity provider or your bus company they does a good job, you only get to them when things went wrong.

Positive talk about a service will rather be found in social interaction with people closer to you, like when you try to convince someone to try the game. Not with people that all already bought the game. There is no need to tell them what's good, they know.

Here we're on an official platform, of course you'll mostly get complaints. It should be the place where negative feedback is taken from. That's one of the point of an official forum, collect feedback on what doesn't work. There is no need to give feedback about something that works well. Not complaining about it gives all the feedback they need.

You want to discuss something positive on the forum, do a thread about something positive, not complain that people are not positive enough in a complain thread.

People complain because they care about the game, have invested a lot of time in it, and don't like it taking ways that seem questionnable.

(Then there are the trolls, but that's different)

Do I overall dislike the game? Yes. But there are things I like about it: combat and jobs being foremost among them, but I have also enjoyed the story writing (as opposed to the storytelling) in the past, and I love the art direction and callbacks to previous FF titles. With a major overhaul that saw the tearing down of a lot of this game's content partitions (Why do fishing and diadem have to be instanced? Why can't there be open-world dungeons?) and a revamp of the MSQ (for starters: make it playable in coop, make it more interactive) this game could be really be something great. At the moment, though, I find very little joy in the game, but I pay my sub so that I can occasionally jump back in and join my gf when she unlocks a new dungeon after sitting through 10+ hours of visual novel.

Posting negative feedback here and in other fora is, I'll admit, sometimes just an effort to achieve some catharsis through venting. But mostly it's because I am still very attached to this game and fervently wish that it would do something to innovate on a formula that has, for me, grown very stale.

WHAT THE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the most disappointing thread I think I have ever seen here on this site. The man posts a neat and tidy questionnaire and only like two people actually answered it-maybe more did, but if they did, then they didnt bother to use the same format exampled and so its just a steaming pile of no-one-cares because if I wanted to read a brickwall, I'd go outside and do that!!!! Sigh