Log in, afk in front of the fc house and log out again

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Originally Posted by Koros

(60k gil charity being shocking to a friend) lmao

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I will admit I laughed when I read 60k. I spend like 5x* that on a single dye for a pair of shorts.

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I will admit I laughed when I read 60k. I spend like 5x* that on a single dye for a pair of shorts.

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Im sure you do. But then again, when a friend makes you those shorts and hand them to you..do you call that "charity" and laugh at it..or accept it in the spirit it was given? I go back to my earlier point..why spend gil when you can make it yourself?

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

Im sure you do. But then again, when a friend makes you those shorts and hand them to you..do you call that "charity" and laugh at it..or accept it in the spirit it was given? I go back to my earlier point..why spend gil when you can make it yourself?

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I tried leveling a crafter. I fell asleep several times in the process. Also, my shorts are from PvP.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

I tried leveling a crafter. I fell asleep several times in the process. Also, my shorts are from PvP.

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I gathered and crafted full sets of gear for every role in the game. I'm beyond burnt out on tombstone grinding at this point that I'm about to chuck the stupid Manderville Tombstone Weapon because I really don't care for yet another tombstone dump.

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

I gathered and crafted full sets of gear for every role in the game. I'm beyond burnt out on tombstone grinding at this point that I'm about to chuck the stupid Manderville Tombstone Weapon because I really don't care for yet another tombstone dump.

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Same. I’m not spending a single gil if I don’t have to. In fact I enjoyed crafting and gathering more than anything else in this game. Still do, probably because I no longer use macros and it keeps me engaged because of it.

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

I gathered and crafted full sets of gear for every role in the game. I'm beyond burnt out on tombstone grinding at this point that I'm about to chuck the stupid Manderville Tombstone Weapon because I really don't care for yet another tombstone dump.

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The trick is to just not do any of that. Do you actively play most of the jobs you would be getting Manderville tomestone weapons on? I haven't bothered to level much outside of things I actually play, nor have I purchased any tomestone weapons for jobs I don't actively play.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

4 star food. 4 star alkahests. 4 star tinctures. 4 star housing items .

I can craft it ALL, which means I am NOT wasting gil on stuff I can make for myself.

I just made 30 HQ dex tinctures for a friend, which would have cost her a MINT on the MB. She is progging savage, you should have seen her face when I handed her free food and tinctures. I can also make my own ingredients / components for these items.

i fail to see the benefit in spending gil on stuff you can make for yourself.

Crafters are self sufficient, which is a HUGE plus as you arent paying through the nose for overpriced MB items. Even on Kujata the gear prices for Diadochos are still within the 100k mark per item, so a full set will set you back close to one million gil for one job gearset ALONE.

Then theres the fact that crafting also provides you with materia and scrips, so you can pentameld your own crafter gear, buy food ingredients , thats another expense you no longer have. I pentamelded and it cost me, yes, but the vast majority was materia I already had in stock and ready to go.

Pentamelding is expensive, granted, but its a long term investment which has already proved its worth and paid for itself long since.

So: are the relics worth the time and effort? Hell yes.

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The downside, of course, is the obscene amount of time and money needed to GET a crafting job to the point where you can comfortably make end game consumables. Between the opportunity cost of tome and unspoiled node materials, materia, money spent on crafting food, its expensive. I wonder, does getting the relic tool require near pentamelded equipment to actually achieve? I bet it does, not that I've checked.

I have other ways to make gil that don't need crafting, so I just do a little of that now and then and I'm solid.

Thats a pity, Rolder, see, had you been on my server, Id have been very happy to help you with that, gear, food, tips, help with timed nodes..I did that for more than a few sprouts actually.

I still do.

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The downside, of course, is the obscene amount of time and money needed to GET a crafting job to the point

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Time? Not that much at all.

Money? Nope, not if you know what you are doing.

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Originally Posted by Rolder50

The downside, of course, is the obscene amount of time and money needed to GET a crafting job to the point where you can comfortably make end game consumables. Between the opportunity cost of tome and unspoiled node materials, materia, money spent on crafting food, its expensive. I wonder, does getting the relic tool require near pentamelded equipment to actually achieve? I bet it does, not that I've checked.

I have other ways to make gil that don't need crafting, so I just do a little of that now and then and I'm solid.

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You can easily level all crafting jobs using leves to 50, then deliveries every week plus leves as they pop, then finally the crafting quest lines in later expac towns and beast tribes.

It is only expensive if you are in a rush. Heck, if you really don’t care you can actually make a lot of money leveling crafting.

As with most things in life, it’s a function of time and money. Faster will (almost) always be more expensive.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

I will admit I laughed when I read 60k. I spend like 5x* that on a single dye for a pair of shorts.

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Don't ruin his moment, that 60k gil saved was unprecedented for him.

It's alright we're all applauding you saving 60k gil.