Genuine fans of Zenos yae Galvus, why do you like him?

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Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer

I mean...its fiction dude. You wanting to "vomit" because somelikes a fictional character is mad hyperbolic lol

People love Frieza from Dragon Ball yet he's probably one of the most racist characters in anime. It's fine

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I just fail to understand people who say things like "Oh Zenos! He's my husbando! I love him so much!"

It sounds like the makings of an abusive relationship.

I mean I like Freddy Kreuger movies, but that doesn't mean I want to bang him.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

I just fail to understand people who say things like "Oh Zenos! He's my husbando! I love him so much!"

It sounds like the makings of an abusive relationship.

I mean I like Freddy Kreuger movies, but that doesn't mean I want to bang him.

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I don't think they literally want to have a relationship with him lol. I think it's a combination of finding fictional, animated characters attractive becoming normalized and memes. Like the 'step on me' memes. Most people that say that aren't literally wanting an S&M relationship. Same thing with Zenos, people that say he's hot aren't saying they want to have a relationship with a literal psychopath that murders people out of boredom.

I only like Zenos viewing him as a self-insert parallel to players who skip all cutscenes and side content just to do end game raiding savage/ultimate.
He literally skipped all dialogue in Garlemald and fucked over the entire country just to get a good fight

I liked the idea of Zenos in the Stormblood patches/end of Shadowbringers as a third party with his own agenda who throws a wrench into the Eorzean Alliance vs Empire vs Ascian conflict. His unpredictability could have also been used to justify fun scenarios like him being a party member for a couple dungeons. Unfortunately he just lounged around on a chair for two years doing nothing, and then spent almost all of the Endwalker expansion doing nothing.

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Originally Posted by Alleluia

Cannot tell if typo or on purpose...:confused: lol

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It's a typo, sorry. :)



Cheers

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

I actually really didn't like him at first. I mean, he committed the cardinal sin of defeating the Warrior of Light in a one-on-one fight! I remember thinking "how the hell..." when that happened. We'd fought, and beaten Primals and Dragons by that point.

It wasn't until later in the story I realised that said loss was a wake-up call that we kinda needed. All those victories - all the praise - the fact that the Warrior of Light had pretty much become a 'trump card' to point at the biggest problems. And then we finally meet a challenge that we couldn't overpower. A challenge that didn't have Primal powers or the Echo but kicked the Warrior of Light's ass anyway, easily, and walked off as if it were not worth a second thought. I've since always felt that this was character development that both Zenos AND our character needed, particularly in terms of demonstrating to the Alliance/the Scions that pointing the WoL at the Big Bad may not be the answer to everything.

This meant that I, personally, enjoyed his endgame and character development in Endwalker. I mean, its difficult to ignore the fact that, regardless of why he did it, he acknowledged that the WoL was too busy engaging in heroics to fight him and later on, once he was done assisting us against Endsinger, he waited patiently for us to finish talking with Meteion before addressing us and offered to let us walk away if we wanted to. And whilst it was, unfortunately, not an option anyway (which was a little irritating) I actually think that he probably would’ve let us go.

What we saw was that Zenos had learned, in his own unique way, what it means to care for someone. His former demands of “I WILL have my contest!") changed to sincerely offering the WoL to share in the only form of happiness he understood. And he was finally able to see WoL as their own person. The way he referred to the WoL as “Adventurer” demonstrated that he understood there is a part of WoL that's difficult for them to express in the midst of all the heroics that were, more often than not, forced upon them. And we directly, and indirectly, gave him a purpose to live. It's what makes him an intriguing character.

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This. All of this. And I think that most recent scene in the MSQ was the WoL finally acknowledging that he saw us as a friend.

I didn't like him much until Endwalker but I get the reason why now. I did always appreciate how he treated us like a person. So many people around us don't. Even Estinien has kind of jumped on the starry eyed WoL worship. So I enjoy interactions with characters like him and Fordola who bring us back down to earth a bit. I wouldn't mind seeing him back, if only so we could fight *with* him this time. Would be like having a Nero to my Cid and I could enjoy that.

https://youtu.be/4AbNkd-va9k
He thicc af unnf

I always refered to him as the "Power Ranger bad guy". He is bad because he likes being bad. He come out of nowhere, and is presented as an insurmountable wall, when you just fucking beat one of first brood that even death could not defeat, and even the ascian said you were becoming too strong for them. They just destroyed the meaning of everything done up until then. It's really funny to me how they went "Yeah, let endwalker be about what the WoL/Player did up until now, show it was worth something", while they did just the opposite when they introduced Zenos, telling the player "all you did didn't matter, it was of no importance, a guy coming out of nowhere can do better". Sure after that, they tried to explain, but that kind of character has to be hinted to be believable.

And don't come telling me "Yoshi-P said it's because he had 10 lvl more". Using a game mechanic as a plot device is bad storytelling. Even Pokemon didn't dare to touch the lvl thing in their anime because how lame it was.

That said, his send off was good. Too good for the character he was for SB and ShB. But I really hope he will stay dead and they won't try to make him come back by the window, or imply we ended to have some bond with him, because I'm gonna get really pissed.

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Originally Posted by CNitsah

I always refered to him as the "Power Ranger bad guy". He is bad because he likes being bad. He come out of nowhere, and is presented as an insurmountable wall, when you just fucking beat one of first brood that even death could not defeat, and even the ascian said you were becoming too strong for them. They just destroyed the meaning of everything done up until then. It's really funny to me how they went "Yeah, let endwalker be about what the WoL/Player did up until now, show it was worth something", while they did just the opposite when they introduced Zenos, telling the player "all you did didn't matter, it was of no importance, a guy coming out of nowhere can do better". Sure after that, they tried to explain, but that kind of character has to be hinted to be believable.

And don't come telling me "Yoshi-P said it's because he had 10 lvl more". Using a game mechanic as a plot device is bad storytelling. Even Pokemon didn't dare to touch the lvl thing in their anime because how lame it was.

That said, his send off was good. Too good for the character he was for SB and ShB. But I really hope he will stay dead and they won't try to make him come back by the window, or imply we ended to have some bond with him, because I'm gonna get really pissed.

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I do want more unredeemable threats. Like the Godking in Night Angel. His motivations for everything was he got a thrill out of seeing people experience fear or despair. That's all he ever wanted to do and he would complete that objective.

He had a failed assassination on him but the fact it took place at all he had the squads draw straws and whoever got the short one in each squad was beaten to death by the rest. One twin had to murder the other. When he got to a husband/wife group he just looked at the wife and said "The short one is on the left". He loved watching her pick the right one and the wails of the husband knowing his wife sentenced him to die.

This is only one of many things he did and frankly one of the tamer ones.

Because he's just a guy looking for a fight. That's it. There's no bullshit birdgirl and dynamis, no 3D chess, no ulterior motives. It's just him looking to fight me and he's willing to do whatever it takes to get that fight. Sometimes simpler is better.