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05-13-2023, 07:57 AM
ForteNightshade

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Originally Posted by subatomic

Then don't be a negative Nancy and let everyone enjoy their game. <3

I mean, you're the one who initiated hostilities by purposely making a point to take a dig at "all the negativity."

Why not take your own advice and simply enjoy the game? If you wanna praise it in a thread, go right ahead. Just leave out the whinging remarks about other people posting their opinions. Your aren't any more special than theirs.
05-13-2023, 07:59 AM
Reimmi

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Originally Posted by subatomic

Constructive criticism is fine but negativity is not. <3

Toxic positivity is not good for the game either.
You should want the game to be better always. The developers are paid for a reason
05-13-2023, 08:22 AM
subatomic

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Originally Posted by Reimmi

Toxic positivity is not good for the game either.
You should want the game to be better always. The developers are paid for a reason

And they have been making it better! With or without the negative Nancys :D

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

I mean, you're the one who initiated hostilities by purposely making a point to take a dig at "all the negativity."

Why not take your own advice and simply enjoy the game? If you wanna praise it in a thread, go right ahead. Just leave out the whinging remarks about other people posting their opinions. Your aren't any more special than theirs.

The forums are not a place for negativity <3

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Originally Posted by WaxSw

Negativity is just the consequence of constructive criticism that has been ignored/silenced over time. Both show that there is an underlying issue that have to be solved so their presence still holds more value than blind praise or the classic "just unsub" (guess what happens if people unsub, exactly, the game dies)

Do you have any evidence that constructive criticism has been ignored? Isn't the change to Savage loot exactly because they listened to constructive feedback :O
05-13-2023, 08:23 AM
RyuDragnier

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Originally Posted by WaxSw

Negativity is just the consequence of constructive criticism that has been ignored/silenced over time. Both show that there is an underlying issue that have to be solved so their presence still holds more value than blind praise or the classic "just unsub" (guess what happens if people unsub, exactly, the game dies)

The problem is what is constituting constructive criticism? Say I give criticism that this game isn't like Guild Wars 2 for 3 years, would you consider the negativity warranted? Of course not, you'd consider me a fool for wanting FF14 to be like GW2. There have been criticisms of the game that make no sense, and have been spouted for years. Those are not worth listening to and are just negative because "GAME ISN'T LIKE OTHER GAME", and unfortunately several posters on these very forums spout them.
05-13-2023, 08:24 AM
ZephyrMenodora

Unfortunately for all the upset people here claiming that XIV is losing players left and right and no one is happy or playing, the MMO division is still making great money for SE *shrug* Thanks for Aveyond who shared this wonderful little fact with us earlier today.
05-13-2023, 08:26 AM
Minarisweet

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Unfortunately for all the upset people here claiming that XIV is losing players left and right and no one is happy or playing, the MMO division is still making great money for SE *shrug* Thanks for Aveyond who shared this wonderful little fact with us earlier today.

Yeah money is all that matters well said zephyr. We should all lick our favorite billion dollar company's boot!
05-13-2023, 08:29 AM
ZephyrMenodora

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Originally Posted by Minarisweet

Yeah money is all that matters well said zephyr. We should all lick our favorite billion dollar company's boot!

LOL. This game is 9 years old and it's financials are doing great. They are doing something right. According to the people here no one is happy outside ERPers and the game is a failure.

I know how sad this makes people.
05-13-2023, 08:33 AM
WaxSw

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Originally Posted by subatomic

The forums are not a place for negativity <3

The forums ARE precisely the place to give that feedback, is our most reliable way to voice our concerns to the devs

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Do you have any evidence that constructive criticism has been ignored? Isn't the change to Savage loot exactly because they listened to constructive feedback :O

oh boi... let me show you the world of healers https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-healer-issues 3 years worth of feedback, one of, if not the most upvoted and followed post in the entire healer subforum and all of that feedback has been ignored AND silenced by the devs for over 3 years. This is also a very good example of how ignoring feedback breeds negativity, as the healer forum is a very negative place because of that same reason

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

The problem is what is constituting constructive criticism?

The link above is a good example, feedback that has been ignored for years, also complains about job design like the removal of kaiten or even balancing problems with the way the 2m meta and crits are shaping the content. Those complaints that represent a reality of the game that players are facing are very good examples constructive criticism
05-13-2023, 08:48 AM
RyuDragnier

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Originally Posted by WaxSw

The link above is a good example, feedback that has been ignored for years, also complains about job design like the removal of kaiten or even balancing problems with the way the 2m meta and crits are shaping the content. Those complaints that represent a reality of the game that players are facing are very good examples constructive criticism

I definitely agree with the healer criticisms. Anybody who knows me knows about how I rage about the current clunky state of SCH, and also about the state of DRK (my berserk button).
05-13-2023, 08:52 AM
CelestiCer

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

i swear lmao yall always try to hide the negativity with those toxic positivity threads, as if one denies the other

also you basically summed up the patch, that's all there is (and the new dungeon)

good job i guess

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