Is it time for yoshi to step down from ff14?

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Originally Posted by ronibosch

Aveyond, let me genuinely ask you: what do you love or like about FFXIV?

No snark, nor jokes from me. I really want to know. There has to be something you like for you to keep paying a sub and dedicating threads to fixing the problems you believe are present in the game.

I don't want to derail the thread, though. If you want, you could always make a new thread or add-on to an old one. ;)

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Not to mention time spent writing fan fiction and brainstorming new complaints. lol

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Originally Posted by magitekLuna

looks some thing clearly do not go well when the biggest and most active topics here are "What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker" (on page 807) and "Was any of the 6.3 content worth waiting 4 months for?" (on page 43).
i must say 6.0 was a total fail of a story for me but i like the current one even if in 6.3 they dropped the balls on it. 6.3 in it self so far is a boring mess. yes the content we got is fun for the first run of it. then what you do for the next 4+ month? will deep dungeon last longer that a weak? will the relic grind be good? and even then how tis supposed to last 4+ month?
the formula works so far onlly as there no new GOOD mmo out in the life time of ff14. if lets say blue protocol (or any new mmo) be a good mmo ff14 will see a nose dive in players. they need to make a more lasting content and the one that don't want to do it is yoshi. he did openly Sayed it more that one time

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All of this is largely a vocal minority opinion.
While most would probably agree Shadowbringers was better than Endwalker in many ways, and there's definitely areas to gripe about, there's hardly a pattern of decline here.
The story is largely subjective, and the difference in format of things like Relic, Deep Dungeon, Criterion and Island Sanctuary, is simply them trying new things and listening to player feedback. We've been asking for a new Deep Dungeon, players have asked for a traditional relic grind instead of locking it behind exploratory zones like Bozja, and players have been asking for harder dungeon content.

Yoshida earned getting to do whatever he wants. Personally though I think it would be really interesting for FFXIV to have a new vision from new leadership while Yoshida focuses on whatever is next, be it a next-gen MMO or another single-player FF like XVI. But if he wants to spend the rest of his career on XIV it will happen, I just hope he doesn't keep the same damn content patterns for its entire lifetime.

I really dislike the idea that because YoshiP saved 14 during 1.0 that he's this infallible being that is beyond criticism that a lot of people seem to have about him. At the risk of sounding like certain individuals, I do think YoshiP is a bit out of touch with his playerbase. As someone else said, look at his disconnect with the healer role, or how he shocked pikachu face'd on April 1st's hrothgar hair reveal. I don't think he's running the game into the ground by any means, but there are unfortunately issues.

I think the guy did a great and wonderful job of saving 14. I also think he's working with severe mismanagement issues because Square Enix while at the same time having to juggle a lot (FF16). The guy has a lot on his plate and like any normal person, it's probably running him ragged.

I don't think he should be replaced, but I do think it'd be in 14's best interest (and maybe his own?) for him to be relegated to one game and for Square to actually freaking listen to what he needs for 14 if that's the one that's chosen (proper funding for one). Personally, I'd rather have him on 14 since he genuinely cares about the game, even if some of the things he does and says is... highly disagreeable.

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Originally Posted by Rufalus

Yoshida earned getting to do whatever he wants.

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This is a very dangerous mindset to have for game developers oh my word.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

People like to Tell Themselves that YoshiP should go away and we need a New Guy.....
But like, how do we know that somebody else wouldn't be Worse then YoshiP?

Dislike the guy all you want, but remember that he saved the game from where it was previously, plus the game is still doing great despite. And from what I hear, it is the Biggest Money Maker for SE Right Now.
You want that to go away for...what exactly? What is another new guy going to do better then YoshiP?

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It wouldn't even be one person. You get rid of Yoshida you have two spots to fill. So would two new people do a better job than Yoshida or do worse? Some here forget that Yoshida holds two rolls. Heck he's even said he'd welcome someone to take over one of those rolls. That he knows it's not normal for someone to hold both the producer and director role for a game.

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Originally Posted by Zebraoracle

I really dislike the idea that because YoshiP saved 14 during 1.0 that he's this infallible being that is beyond criticism that a lot of people seem to have about him. At the risk of sounding like certain individuals, I do think YoshiP is a bit out of touch with his playerbase. As someone else said, look at his disconnect with the healer role, or how he shocked pikachu face'd on April 1st's hrothgar hair reveal. I don't think he's running the game into the ground by any means, but there are unfortunately issues.

I think the guy did a great and wonderful job of saving 14. I also think he's working with severe mismanagement issues because Square Enix while at the same time having to juggle a lot (FF16). The guy has a lot on his plate and like any normal person, it's probably running him ragged.

I don't think he should be replaced, but I do think it'd be in 14's best interest (and maybe his own?) for him to be relegated to one game and for Square to actually freaking listen to what he needs for 14 if that's the one that's chosen (proper funding for one).




This is a very dangerous mindset to have for game developers oh my word.

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Except despite all the complaining here, the "playerbase" keeps growing with every expansion. So how out of touch is he?

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Except despite all the complaining here, the "playerbase" keeps growing with every expansion. So how out of touch is he?

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Those two things aren't mutually exclusive though? Overall the game is good, hence why the playerbase keeps growing. But he can still be a bit out of touch regarding certain aspects of the game, you know, the parts of the game that ARE suffering.

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Originally Posted by Mcg55ss

Just cuz you're good developer, does not mean you're a good director of the entire operation.

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as the team is 100% developers.-_-

This right here? This is how you get stuck with Tanaka again or Nomura. Trust me. You don't want that. Yoshi P may make mistakes and at times not have an agreeing idea with the playerbase but uh... as others have said he is the sole reason that Square Enix is still even around.

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Originally Posted by magitekLuna

as the team is 100% developers.-_-

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This mindset is how WoW ended up with Ion.

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Originally Posted by TomsYoungerBro

I think its a problem at the top of Square and not Yoshi P. If anything, Our current production and development staff is the sole reason this is like their only successful game in recent memory XD. And of course they pull Yoshi P and some FF14 resources for FF16...

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no no out side of how much funds the game gets its 100% yoshi's game.