Full Notes Patch 6.3

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Originally Posted by Rithy255

I don't think you play Paladin if you don't know how much these changes do to our rotation, it's not summoner levels of rework but It's pretty massive a lot more then any recent change other then SMN. It's not "small adjustments"

EDIT: just adding circle of scorn is nothing like how goring blade or valor worked, they were strict and always apart of our rotation, Scorn you press on cooldown lol.

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Yeah when they told PLDs they were going to change your whole rotation that's normally not a minor thing. It could be a snapshot of what they have in mind for 7.0 stuff even though that's still pretty far off. Yet we know both DRG and Ast changes or at least big ones are being held off until 7.0. One would assume that meant they're already thinking about how they want some jobs to function or feel that far down the line. I still think Intervene should be learned at an earlier level 72 is way to high.

Mch did get a raid buff. They got dismantle back.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

I hope the PLD change is decent, because those potency changes look oof at face-value. But idk how those line up anymore, so... who knows, it might pay off.

But what the hell is up with Shake it Off? xD

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Just warriors keeping the meme alive.

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Originally Posted by Rithy255

I don't think you play Paladin if you don't know how much these changes do to our rotation, it's not summoner levels of rework but It's pretty massive a lot more then any recent change other then SMN. It's not "small adjustments"

EDIT: just adding circle of scorn is nothing like how goring blade or valor worked, they were strict and always apart of our rotation, Scorn you press on cooldown lol.

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I do play and I've been excited for these changes since they were announced. I know it's not a small change. I'm just commenting on the levels of paranoia that exist about these things. People thought the job would be "gutted" in the same way SMN supposedly was.

:^) welp, time to PLD + WAR + SMN + DNC + 3 other DPS - 1 of the healers. /j

Okay but we're sleeping on the cutest change in there. Bard's Nature Minne. It's longer but it reaches everyone now.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

:^) welp, time to PLD + WAR + SMN + DNC + 3 other DPS - 1 of the healers. /j

Okay but we're sleeping on the cutest change in there. Bard's Nature Minne. It's longer but it reaches everyone now.

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I'm so glad i can aoe heal and shield without and silly stuff proccing, just like warriors, you guys deserve your regens on shake it off (I wish pld got that now though xD)

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

I hope the PLD change is decent, because those potency changes look oof at face-value. But idk how those line up anymore, so... who knows, it might pay off.

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Most of the rotation is low potency so that the burst can be high potency though.

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But what the hell is up with Shake it Off? xD

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Regens to counter dots. Which makes you wonder why PLD didn't get a regen on theirs.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

Old RoE is a penalizing ability, which many players - myself included grow sick of. The old RoF would reduce the amount mitigated once you start using weaponskills, which is absolutely horrendous, especially in fights where damage is coming out consistently like Barb EX. You really did not need the three stacks, especially when taking this penalty into account.

What this does is gives MNKs even more sustainability than they already had before. RoW+Bloodbath could already be used for essentially what was a pretty powerful regen effect, and now they have two, plus a consistent 20% mitigation.

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But it's 2 minutes mitigation... Why though? The regen is also "self" regen compared with RPR's Arcane Crest that's available every 30 seconds but AoE.

I might don't mind if it's 1 minute but... 2 minutes for 10 seconds damage reduction are too long to just use, for example, on Barbie EX :(

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

Most of the rotation is low potency so that the burst can be high potency though.

Regens to counter dots. Which makes you wonder why PLD didn't get a regen on theirs.

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They've always gotten shields. PLD DRK are to SCH SGE as WAR GNB are to WHM AST

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

I do play and I've been excited for these changes since they were announced. I know it's not a small change. I'm just commenting on the levels of paranoia that exist about these things. People thought the job would be "gutted" in the same way SMN supposedly was.

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I'm somewhat excited but a bit disappointed with how they went about reworking goring blade into another "press every 1 minute button" Having magic outside burst is a huge W In my opinion, allows PLD to flow more and feel less strict, you can save your holy spirit (outside of raid buff), for 1. need a small sustain, 2. go into ranged Pld might actually feel so good at higher levels.

A big issue is PLD is going to feel even worse before they get magic, it's going to be 1, 2, 3 still in ARR, hw You don't even have dot management, they really need to look at how PLD plays early game because it feels really boring and will put off people levelling the job, In general PLD still needs a bit more polish in my opinion it's got a bunch of bloat (cover & shield bash), it's got still a clunky raid wide in Passage, also I really dislike intervention I'm hoping the rework it so you don't have to actively be mitigating rampart/sentinel to get "bonus" effects aka the same effect as your normal CD.

PLD likely going to be in a really good spot for Level 90 content, it's going to be actually be a good MT option with how PLD's get generally more uses out of holy Shelltron but now doesn't lack a personal, I think warrior might still need a Damage buff, we're unsure about if PLD gonna have big numbers or not right now.