SE need to stop this!

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

Probably going to have an unpopular opinion but personally I can't blame people for doing this if the wards are sitting empty for months on end. I noticed the OP is from Raiden so I looked at Paissa Housing and there are still 3k houses up for grabs and Raiden has been here for how many months now?

If people don't move/join the server and buy houses then others will take them up rather than let them sit there because there are literally thousands left (a.k.a no shortage on houses for the population of the server). The same will probably happen on Dynamis and any other new DCs/servers that pop in. The "finite commodity" argument only really works for servers where housing is extremely limited because there is too much population (like Balmung for example).

If the population isn't there and someone wants to grab an extra house thats been sitting unclaimed for months, cool. I don't really see a problem with that, nor do I think theyre robbing anyone of a house with how many there are available. Anyone else who really wanted a house could do the exact same.

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You say that but when when the next expansion releases and there's a new population boom, suddenly housing becomes a problem again.

If we're going to lay out any rules here, let's at least be consistent about them.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

You say that but when when the next expansion releases and there's a new population boom, suddenly housing becomes a problem again.

If we're going to lay out any rules here, let's at least be consistent about them.

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There are still 4 more servers incoming on the NA side of things which will bring in another load of houses on top of the ward expansions coming soon across all servers. Aren't JP and EU supposed to get new servers too? (My memory is a bit rusty on where we are exactly with the full server expansions they had planned.)

My view still stands though on if people don't want to move to where houses are readily available and want to punish those that did move and are taking plots that are sitting abandoned (especially in the case of Materia), that's a them problem.

Can wait, continue to be mad and post threads like this and hope for a change or do something that's actually possible now and go get a house on a server where there aren't enough people to buy them. If loyalty to an FC or being afraid to be far from friends is holding you back (especially if cross-DC is a thing in your region) consider how much you actually need/want a house.

As far as things stand now, they did what they could to prevent it and even with more restrictions put in place (# of active members, taxes, etc.) they can still easily be circumvented. Instanced housing would be the only legitimate solution but it's pretty obvious by now that they don't have an interest in pushing that out to people aside from Island Sanctuary.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

There are still 4 more servers incoming on the NA side of things which will bring in another load of houses on top of the ward expansions coming soon across all servers. Aren't JP and EU supposed to get new servers too? (My memory is a bit rusty on where we are exactly with the full server expansions they had planned.)

My view still stands though on if people don't want to move to where houses are readily available and want to punish those that did move and are taking plots that are sitting abandoned (especially in the case of Materia), that's a them problem.

Can wait, continue to be mad and post threads like this and hope for a change or do something that's actually possible now and go get a house on a server where there aren't enough people to buy them. If loyalty to an FC or being afraid to be far from friends is holding you back (especially if cross-DC is a thing in your region) consider how much you actually need/want a house.

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Its planned for EU to add a whole new DC. If they are going the same route with 8 worlds on it we're looking into at least 72.000 new houses (incl. the 6 new wards with 6.3 / excl. any potential new districts) from 2023 onwards. Even if the supply will be met some day we will see the usual complains didnt got a Med or Large, didnt got the district i wanted blah blah blah.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

There are still 4 more servers incoming on the NA side of things which will bring in another load of houses on top of the ward expansions coming soon across all servers. Aren't JP and EU supposed to get new servers too? (My memory is a bit rusty on where we are exactly with the full server expansions they had planned.)

My view still stands though on if people don't want to move to where houses are readily available and want to punish those that did move and are taking plots that are sitting abandoned (especially in the case of Materia), that's a them problem.

Can wait, continue to be mad and post threads like this and hope for a change or do something that's actually possible now and go get a house on a server where there aren't enough people to buy them. If loyalty to an FC or being afraid to be far from friends is holding you back (especially if cross-DC is a thing in your region) consider how much you actually need/want a house.

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You know, I'm beginning to get a bit suspicious that you might be a house hoarder yourself considering how you deflected that.

I moved to Dynamis for my house, and I think it's reasonable to ask people to move servers if they want a better chance at getting one. This doesn't change the fact that we cannot and should not allow people to run around hoarding houses. The supply isn't infinite. The issues that plague other servers can happen to new ones.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

You know, I'm beginning to get a bit suspicious that you might be a house hoarder yourself considering how you deflected that.

I moved to Dynamis for my house, and I think it's reasonable to ask people to move servers if they want a better chance at getting one. This doesn't change the fact that we cannot and should not allow people to run around hoarding houses. The supply isn't infinite. The issues that plague other servers can happen to new ones.

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Can make assumptions however you want, you don't know me and I don't know you. Thankfully the opinions of others don't really bother me anymore.

Never called it infinite, just that there are options available currently and people can move to get one rather than create threads complaining about people buying up houses that people aren't buying otherwise. It just comes off as white knighting for people that aren't there in the first place to buy the houses. If every server in NA was completely dry on FC houses, it would be a bigger issue in my eyes.

Out of the 28 servers in NA, only 6 have 0 FCs houses available (via Paissa Housing) so the issue isn't even plaguing half of the NA servers where people are completely unable to buy an FC. Privates are an entirely different story but there are plenty of FCs to go around if people truly want one. If action should be taken in regards to this then target the servers where they are fully unable to buy one and remove from there since that is an actual problem that should be addressed.

I can drag out stats for EU, OCE and JP if you really want me to as well or can just look for yourself.

Really, people are complaining about a problem that doesn't exist. I just decided to look into it, and there are *six* servers that has 0 FC plots left. And SE is adding a bunch of new wards soon, so even for the one server that has this problem, a solution is already happening.

And since its not a problem, then more power to the people that spend all the time and gil it takes to accomplish something like this.

When it comes to accounts owning FCs, can I have a personal on my main and an FC as well... and can I make an alt and have him create an FC (with other signatories) and also have a second FC house on the same service account?

I'm asking because if this guy/girl that has all of these FC plots - are they paying for just a few accounts or are they paying for 30?

You can only have 1 personal per account, 1 FC per character

All these people demanding rent on top of already having to pay for sub in order to "keep" one's house is why im glad none of you are in charge. Holy ********

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Originally Posted by RobynDaBank

Can't see what you posted, the link refuses to open anything. Press this button when editing/creating your post to add the link and embed the image.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...2907/image.png

Edit, I see it now...

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/...-07-120051.jpg

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This looks like something that came out of the initial opening of Ishgard housing. FCs haven't been able to purchase plots beyond ward 9 for months now.

baited. :rolleyes: