Housing Revision opinion

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Arazehl

Two wrongs don't make a right.

---

No, but you cant take something away from people and give no alternatives.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

No, but you cant take something away from people and give no alternatives.

---

You can if that person intentions were dishonorable and deceiving.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Then as I said, fix the personal housing issue, and people wont need to create fake/shell fcs, you cant tell people not to make fcs and then leave them in a pool of over 100-150 people for a single small house in shirogane

---

A permanent fix of the housing issue would be nice, everything else like the lottery/auto demo/FC ward restrictions is only a bandaid and doesn't solve the underlying problem. But that isn't the topic of this thread. It is about the proposal to put a stop to fake/shell fcs occupying FC slots. Which also is unfortunately just another bandaid.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Arazehl

You can if that person intentions were dishonorable and deceiving.

---

/facepalm ...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Arazehl

Shell FC's want to take away everything that FCs should be about. SE should tighten up restrictions in owning and maintaining an FC, so that people have to actually take on the responsibility of running one. Quit making it easy for these people to find loopholes and make them honestly earn the right to call themselves an FC., so that they need to really give thought to what it means, when it comes to buying up property for their FC. SE has let so many of these shell FCs fall through the cracks, I honestly don't think they even know how to come back from a debacle like this.

---

You know, if Square did put some sort of activity requirement on things...say 5 people active per week, and I'm keeping it low because of their view on how people should be able to come and go from the game at their leisure, it would just be circumvented by people making more alts and logging on them for a few minutes. Hell, some people have multiple accounts (whales be whales) and can just fill an FC with alts to bypass any sort of population requirement as well. If you have friends you can even just ask them to put their alts into the FC to take up space/help with activity. An activity/people requirement is not going to achieve what ya'll are looking for either.

To be completely fair, there's no actual way to fix the problem at this point outside of instanced housing being a thing.

creating stricter requirements for fc's alongside the 45 day for solo house owners is honestly quite fair
active players and active fcs should benefit from housing and not those who pay a sub to just occupy a virtual house

for fcs, iirc, you don't even have to be the owner of the house, just go in the house and timer refreshes
it's an unfair advantage
and oft if this is happening that means the fc is just taking up space

if i wanna have it even more my way - if you need an email to tell you to log in bc "house" - ya don't need it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by VirusOnline

creating stricter requirements for fc's alongside the 45 day for solo house owners is honestly quite fair
active players and active fcs should benefit from housing and not those who pay a sub to just occupy a virtual house

for fcs, iirc, you don't even have to be the owner of the house, just go in the house and timer refreshes
it's an unfair advantage
and oft if this is happening that means the fc is just taking up space

if i wanna have it even more my way - if you need an email to tell you to log in bc "house" - ya don't need it.

---

Yes you do have to be the owner of the house to reset the timer.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Yes you do have to be the owner of the house to reset the timer.

---

FCs are anyone in the FC. Only personals require the homeowner to reset it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by LianaThorne

FCs are anyone in the FC. Only personals require the homeowner to reset it.

---

Nevermind then, I stand corrected

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by LianaThorne

You know, if Square did put some sort of activity requirement on things...say 5 people active per week, and I'm keeping it low because of their view on how people should be able to come and go from the game at their leisure, it would just be circumvented by people making more alts and logging on them for a few minutes. Hell, some people have multiple accounts (whales be whales) and can just fill an FC with alts to bypass any sort of population requirement as well. An activity/people requirement is not going to achieve what ya'll are looking for either.

To be completely fair, there's no actual way to fix the problem at this point outside of instanced housing being a thing.

---

If people had to actually recruit to maintain an FC status it would lessen the problems and I'm talking about active members. This means active members not the inactive. The 1% of people who have more than 5 accounts is the minority. Most people are the one to two account households. You are right in that to fix supply vs demand there needs to be instance housing.