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Originally Posted by viion

on xi or xiv? on XI i had a few rmt and sometimes an ls member. In XIV my blacklist is full of Japanese who have to use 1 line per letter when shouting, has to be the most annoying shit ever and i dont know why they dont get a warning for it.

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I dunno, maybe because Japanese is normally read vertically instead of horizontally.

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Originally Posted by whoopeeragon

They're not afraid to use their blacklist, I see....
Does anyone actually put people into their blacklist? I haven't found anyone who is really aggravating enough to scrawl their name into the list....

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Yes. So far only English speaking players who like to shout bad jokes or the same WTS adverts every minute in Ul'dah. But I don't like to make assumptions on where they are from since there are English speakers the world over.

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

I dunno, maybe because Japanese is normally read vertically instead of horizontally.

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I get that with English text inside of Japanese sentences, where one English letter comes up per line.

I think it's a bug of the chat log rather than something people are doing intentionally. I did report it to SE through their web site, but that's kind of like throwing things into a black box.

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Originally Posted by EQ85

The generalizations are nice but I think it goes both ways. I can't tell you how many jp's have dropped in the pts I've been in without warning, using the [Time for work!]

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Um. My 2 LSs are Japanese so I party with Japanese players about 99% of the time. Usually there is talk in Japanese about the need to disband before actually doing so -- perhaps in the LS chat rather than the Party chat.

Suddenly disbanding without warning to anyone would be EXTREMELY rude and probably not forgotten.

I hope that they were just not able to communicate the need to disband in English and so it seemed really abrupt. ><

Serklets Earth Powder no longer hits the Party members who are in the first floor (this was horrendous. Before Shiia, my character named Xenno an elvaan mage were exping in there, and all of a sudden, BAM all party member dead. Why? Seklet's aoe affected even on the first floor...).

lmao to this, great read ty for posting.

I just read entire thread. I'm glad to see some people making the connection between XI's development and XIV's, as I do believe they are quite similar. Early in the XI days I recall the Japanese players flat out ignoring NA and EU players. As we adapted to their play-styles and they to ours, things changed for the better. You can still find bad apples on both sides, such as those who were unwilling to even acknowledge the JP player base, and JP players that just flat out call us rude.

I think in FFXIV the friendly players have returned from the Japanese player base, as well as those few bad apples. However I believe the NA player base has changed and forgotten the relationships that were established in XI, and we are starting over.

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Originally Posted by Mikita

Um. My 2 LSs are Japanese so I party with Japanese players about 99% of the time. Usually there is talk in Japanese about the need to disband before actually doing so -- perhaps in the LS chat rather than the Party chat.

Suddenly disbanding without warning to anyone would be EXTREMELY rude and probably not forgotten.

I hope that they were just not able to communicate the need to disband in English and so it seemed really abrupt. ><

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This is always with just one jp in an NA pt. I would normally just write it off as something came up, thus no notice, but it seems more often than not, how they were leaving the pts.

I was just giving an example of how it can go both ways, but my experience with jp pts has mostly been positive. A lot of times they brought me to pt in places I haven't been before, using setups I haven't seen and going out of their way to make sure I know what's going on, since I don't speak a word of japanese.

Interesting to me was the level cap raised every couple months initially.

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Originally Posted by Lock_Hyur

I played XI up until lv80 and abyssea... then switched to XIV at beta.

One porblem with JP Culture is that they rarely try new "out of the box" type things. I found it was usually the NAs that tried new strategies for exp party or NMs etc. NA, while being dicks, were the ones to go out on a limb and try something new and sometimes strange. JP were good at replicating&improving on what others created.

OP:

I hope XIV gets better like XI did. I enjoy XIV but, like my work shirts, it does need some ironing.

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not for me. I melee rdm since well they can. jp... open minded.. NA: YOU SUCK RDM CAN'T MELEE
/sh such and such sucks at rdm don;t party with her.

ya.. they try new thinga >.>

I agree everyone is good and bad. But i rarely ran into rude jp players. I mostly ran into rude english players. Not because what was said, but how they acted.

But it was still rare to actually meet a rude person in ffxi. it was like for every 20 ppl 5 would be rude. Which is why i'm kinda like wtf at this forum community. I was expecting much more ffxi community then stuff I seen in WoW.

I do find it funny that worms used to move. And that ppl camped in davoi, the necropolis, and other places. And that pld old main weapon was the great sword and drk never really had great swords.
Personallt i think ffxi had a worst launch then ffxiv. Least we didn't have the devs play keep away with sneak while opening chests. I woulda been peeved off.

Interesting points Kilta. Very cool to see some of the differences from your point of view.

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Originally Posted by Aratharn

Interesting to me was the level cap raised every couple months initially.

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It also seemed they didn't have as severe (if any at all) of a problem as XIV seems to have with it's current class system :/