Healing Spells You Do Not Mind Being Removed in PvE

You could remove half of sage's heals and replace them with abilities that synergise with, and spread kardia and/or do damage. Then you can give sage an actual damage rotation.

SCHs got scammed, because going from Stormblood to Shadowbringers, they killed most of the DPS rotation, then added more healing spells that accomplish less work. A lot of really boring healing spells, at that, which feel extremely uninspired and like not a lot of consideration went into it. Can easily cut 6 or 7 abilities, make the existing ones more exciting, and maybe add another damage ability or two.

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Originally Posted by Esmoire

A lot of really boring healing spells, at that

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Wouldn't even be that bad if they upped the healing requirements to at least balance the amount of healing skills they just threw into the game, including healing/barrier abilities added from other classes - but eh... it's always an uphill battle.

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Originally Posted by Lubu_Mykono

I don't care what they remove, I want Aero, Thunder, Miasma II and Shadow Flare back on my Scholar.
That or just give me a classic server.

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Never going to happen due to the DoT cap on bosses / mobs. The entire reason they took them away is that in 24m raids people literally couldn't apply them due to the cap.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Never going to happen due to the DoT cap on bosses / mobs. The entire reason they took them away is that in 24m raids people literally couldn't apply them due to the cap.

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Really? That's actually beyond cringe. There's so many irrelevant debuffs they could have removed that would in turn also reduce button bloat. (Feint and Addle immediately come to mind) Why take away what little fun there was left from the heaers?

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Originally Posted by GoatOfWar

Really? That's actually beyond cringe. There's so many irrelevant debuffs they could have removed that would in turn also reduce button bloat. (Feint and Addle immediately come to mind) Why take away what little fun there was left from the heaers?

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What makes you think YoshiP's team understands what healers find fun?

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Originally Posted by GoatOfWar

Really? That's actually beyond cringe. There's so many irrelevant debuffs they could have removed that would in turn also reduce button bloat. (Feint and Addle immediately come to mind) Why take away what little fun there was left from the heaers?

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Feint and Addle are incredibly helpful in raids, though I think it would make much more sense if they went back to the healers instead; the amount of times I've seen DPS players properly use Feint/Addle, even in Savage, (outside of coordinated groups where mitigations are planned) is probably less than 10.

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Originally Posted by Nizzi

Feint and Addle are incredibly helpful in raids

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I think the point was more that they apply a debuff to a target instead of being a simple raidwide damage reduction for phys/mag.

Less unnecessary debuffs like that would give room to add more DoT's.

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Originally Posted by Nizzi

Feint and Addle are incredibly helpful in raids, though I think it would make much more sense if they went back to the healers instead; the amount of times I've seen DPS players properly use Feint/Addle, even in Savage, (outside of coordinated groups where mitigations are planned) is probably less than 10.

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Seriously Feint and addle both should be taken from the DPS (Who rarely ever actually use them), repackaged, and given to healers as role actions.

Feint = Protect (party based)

Addle = Shell (Party based)

There, you have 2 ICONIC spells. Protect used to be in the game but Yoshi removed it for "reasons", mostly because it was a once fire and forget spell. Put a short CD on it, and short Duration and then it's much more active.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Never going to happen due to the DoT cap on bosses / mobs. The entire reason they took them away is that in 24m raids people literally couldn't apply them due to the cap.

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That is a cheap excuse from them.
We have classes that have dots with a higher cooldown than duration and they could easily rework skills to function as a partywide buff instead of a debuff. Instead they chose to keep dots that clutter the debuff bar during burst (like GNB dots) and cut the more meaningful dots from healers that resulted in a more varied and constantly changing rotation just so a worst case comp can still go all-out with meaningless dots you literally can't mismanage/ refresh too early because they're on a cooldown that exceeds their duration.
Brilliant.