PVP Crystalline Conflict do NOT need to be solo queue or full party queue

So, just because I'm not good enough to win in ranked, I should play in casual and be steamrollered by teams of 5 premade and lose there too?

Then what would you call a mode where it's not ranked, but also fair with randomly made teams, but you can still get credit to get through the battle pass?

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Originally Posted by ICountFrom0

So, just because I'm not good enough to win in ranked, I should play in casual and be steamrollered by teams of 5 premade and lose there too?

Then what would you call a mode where it's not ranked, but also fair with randomly made teams, but you can still get credit to get through the battle pass?

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Its 900 for a win and 700 for a loss, you can lose your way through the battlepass nearly as fast as winning it to be fair.

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Originally Posted by Elesh

Ranked should be about fairness. You are correct.

Casual should be about fun. Fun, in an MMO setting, for MOST people, tends to involve their friends. Just because you don't like your friends doesn't mean nobody should be allowed to have fun.

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Could argue that fairness is fun. Why not just wait for PvP Teams? You don't think this is the end all of pvp content, right? The Team option hasn't been entirely removed, it's just disabled. It's still in your menu. It's very possible SE is releasing solos first as a way to introduce the content, giving everyone a fair and equal learning ground. even if we're all new, getting stomped by a 5 stack is gonna put people off.

if playing with friends is the end all for you, this content isn't for you at the moment (msq being mandatory must be suffering). you COULD play frontlines if you want a pvp team right now, but that is being conveniently ignored. Could farm up those mounts and commander coat, or just spend your time complaining about what "isn't there" in the game's best pvp patch so far.

inb4 "but other games let you team up!" And this is SE probably attempting to learn from and not repeat the mistakes of their peers. Remember how the director made the devs play WoW?

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Originally Posted by ICountFrom0

So, just because I'm not good enough to win in ranked, I should play in casual and be steamrollered by teams of 5 premade and lose there too?

Then what would you call a mode where it's not ranked, but also fair with randomly made teams, but you can still get credit to get through the battle pass?

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If you can't win in ranked what gives you any chance to win in casuals?
Both are the same thing one just has a rating system and one does not.

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Originally Posted by HalinFluffyBuns

If you can't win in ranked what gives you any chance to win in casuals?
Both are the same thing one just has a rating system and one does not.

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Because as a duo they can double team others and laugh about it over a beverage later and brag about how amazing they are lol.

I mean that is already happening already with randoms so what's the difference? I've seen random players double and even triple-team players in the 60+ solo games I have played. so far

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Originally Posted by HalinFluffyBuns

I mean that is already happening already with randoms so what's the difference? I've seen random players double and even triple-team players in the 60+ solo games I have played. so far

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True. Even on my FC the only way to play together is as we queue at the same time and often we land on the same team or even the same match. And this bullshit about duos against solos makes no sense at all. Every game that allows duos to queue for ranked is designed to make sure that at least 1 duo premade is on both sides, in League for exemple is almost impossible to join Duo and being matched agains 5 solos is aways 2-2-1 vs 2-2-1 or 2-1-1 vs 2-1-1. there are rare cases where you'll get 2-2-1 vs 2-1-1 but i believe only if theres no else for the game to match you with.

SE isnt a small indie company and a system like that inst rocket science.

Being stuck with solos queues and not being able to comunicate properly makes the experience even worse.
Finding 1 ppl to play with is not that hard, thats what Party Finder exists for. Having to find another 9 to do custom matches on the other hand is nearly impossible.

Devs worked hard on abilites and on the pvp mode(and they did well) only to cap the players the possibility to play with their friends and have fun.

If they want players to engage in PVP maybe realizing that interacting with each other is fundamental on a team game. Since they are so afraid to let players talk to each other or even playing together, maybe they should'nt have added pvp at all.

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Originally Posted by NeoDivinity

True. Even on my FC only way to play together we queue at the same time and often we land on the same team or even the same match. And this bullshit about duos against solos makes no sense at all. Every game that allows duos to queue for ranked is designed to make sure that at least 1 duo premade is on both sides, in League for exemple is almost impossible to join Duo and being matched agains 5 solos is aways 2-2-1 vs 2-2-1 or 2-1-1 vs 2-1-1. there are rare cases where you'll get 2-2-1 vs 2-1-1 but i believe only if theres no else for the game to match you with.

SE isnt a small indie company and a system like that inst rocket science.

Being stuck with solos queues and not being able to comunicate properly makes the experience even worse.
Finding 1 ppl to play with is not that hard, thats what Party Finder exists. Having to find another 9 to do custom matches on the other hand is nearly impossible.

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Like I would be all for solo queue if the quick chat was Actually decent and had a few more commands like a "Help me!" and maybe some other useful commands but as of right now there's no way to ask for help and it sucks

heck, even a "Watch the rear" and "I'm Flanking" since some maps do have some good flanks.
But as it stands I would much rather play a casual mode with a duo or a full team of friends and actually enjoy the mode than sit in solo queue heck pulling at my hair strings keeping my wig together

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Originally Posted by SweetPete

I been playing it since patch went live and one more win away from getting silver. I been going up and down with wins. If you’re a healer you are an instant target. So it hasn’t changed since feast. Still same old same. “See healer, thrash healer” was gonna switch to dps but I love healer.

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The one time I tried as DPS I was in an all DPS party. AST is my main but I only queue as that now to make sure my party has at least one healer.