First off, the way I phrase my arguments is because I'm not a native speaker. I apologise if you take offense at the way I say things, but understand not everyone on these forums is a native speaker.Quote:
Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl
Second, what measures have I suggested people take? I have suggested measures SE should take because this is a SE problem, not a user problem. The users are the ones being affected.
Keep the insults coming though.
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12-13-2021, 11:56 AMlezard21
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12-13-2021, 11:57 AMEriane_ElisIt may very well be the user's internet and not them. I'm sure they know better about the situation than we do. However, I don't think that people should lose their session entirely (auto-retry for example) but we don't really know how things work and it could potentially cause severe desync and other network related issues. They have at least allowed people to log back in and resume their queue but it doesn't always work yet. To be honest, these things aren't easy to understand or fix and it's easier to be an armchair developer and think "all they need to do is this" to fix it but the reality is always going to be complicated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Belisaire
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12-13-2021, 11:57 AMPredatoryCatgirlI'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt here and assume that he was wrong as opposed to lying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Belisaire
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12-13-2021, 12:01 PMZanarkand-RonsoOk Karen Calm down....Just because you feel good about yourself doesnt mean you get to oversell things.Quote:
Originally Posted by lezard21
Besides, you were called a Karen for your attitude, not for addressing an issue everyone has faced. Some worse then others.
That quote of yours does not 100% Directly Blame peoples Internet connections. But suggests that Internet Connections also effect the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puremallace
Client resets are also a result of Packet Loss if Im remembering that correctly, which is also effected by your internet .
So its not a Complete BLAME of my internet or your internet or somebody else internet.
Also, reading the Analysis (Or what I can personally understand) there is a claim that every 15 minutes the Error 2002 happens mid-queue and just randomly kicks you off......I can say this is false, or this might be something that effects some people. Because I time how long it takes for me to get on, and I do not face a Random Kickoff every 15 minutes. Not even on release when things were at their worse. -
12-13-2021, 12:02 PMLunalepsyInteresting link.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puremallace
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12-13-2021, 12:48 PMShougun
I could see a few situations,
a. The link is wrong (though it seemed informative so I'm not immediately for that, and it seems right... Because I've had games survive worse on less*, the queue seems aggressively sensitive)
b. Someone informed Yoshida wrong
c. They know the reason but it is providing relief and so they were trying to hide it, as they don't want the queue to be even longer, or causing other instability issues, due to the queue not randomly dropping people
d. A little bit out of multiple options lol, maybe some of what said is true but there are other issues too.
End of day it is certainly disheartening and annoying to wait in a long line and get kicked out, feeling like you have to nurse the queue and can't walk away else hours will be lost, but even if you nurse the queue you have a chance all is for naught if you get the error too many times and it forgets your place in line. I've been lucky and rarely get the issue, am thankful for that - I have been able to play fairly consistently. I feel for those who haven been unlucky.
Seems like blizzard is doing worse and worse, can we have their servers now? Lol XD
*Worse on less not as in SE's situation with popular game not enough servers, I mean much worse internet quality connecting to do activities. Often games, programs, whatever, can save themselves from a full hard crash. If the internet did fail to pass information back to the servers, why couldn't it attempt to repair that relationship? And if it does already... shouldn't it be possible to make it try harder? lol. I don't envy situation or those having to working on this right now though, best options seem not possible (can't easily buy more hardware) and the other solutions are probably dangerous enough you don't want to just whip them out without making sure they wont cause other catastrophic issues (like if you followed New World unfortunately a few quick fix solutions to issues created much larger problems later). -
12-13-2021, 01:45 PMRyuDragnier
Hasn't been happening on PS4, or at least to me. I got one crash after waiting an hour, immediately logged back in, and was back in my place in queue for another 30 minutes before I actually got in earlier today.
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12-13-2021, 02:06 PMHasratAdditional consideration: player load has literally never been this high. Could as easily be a case of "we never knew this was a problem because it's never come up before."Quote:
Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl
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12-13-2021, 02:12 PMTsukinoWe get the exact same 5006 and 2002 errors every expansion. They've closed the client instead of reconnecting every time. The queue itself has never been this bad before, but the errors and the bad software design have always been there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasrat
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12-13-2021, 02:14 PMMacleodIt's not saying you get kicked off every 15 minutes, it's saying you have a CHANCE of getting kicked off every 15 minutes if you fail to re-establish the connection in their convoluted queue system that force disconnects you and attempts to reconnect in the background. You won't know it failed until you get Error 2002. If you successfully reconnected, you'll never know it happened. This is something the queue should not be doing, we're already connected and in queue...keep us connected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso