Dev Team Feedback - SCH

Can you imagine leveling a new SCH spamming "broil" 10,000 times a week? HOW THE HECK do you think this is interesting gameplay? It's literally the most mind-numbingly basic and boring "healer" experience ever. Seriously, it's worse than any MMO on the market. Bring back 4.0 builds; this pure healer crap is straight garbage.

I do wonder if as part of challenge log we should get XP or tomes for spamming Broil 10,000 doesnt seem hard to get haha :D.

Scholar did get Scholars Harbour in the Old Sharlayan area as seen on the media tour walk.

I totally get of comments and I hanker for 2.0/3.0 scholar but know it isn't coming back but I would like to see Aetherflow being used outside of combat that would be my one wish based on the current kit. I can live with all the rest even fey union and dissipation if I had to or just simply generate aetherflow stacks every 20 seconds like Sage.

Does Sacred soil and then dumping expediate sort of stack? one states only suffering from 90% of damage inflicted and the other reduces damage taken by 10% sort of equals a 20% save if i just stand still? I may not be reading that right?

New Ability: Fae Vengeance, uses the fairy gauge to cause AoE damage around your fairy. Could be interesting strategy to manually place the fairy in a melee pack and use the gauge to either heal or harm.

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Originally Posted by PaulH

I do wonder if as part of challenge log we should get XP or tomes for spamming Broil 10,000 doesnt seem hard to get haha :D.

Scholar did get Scholars Harbour in the Old Sharlayan area as seen on the media tour walk.

I totally get of comments and I hanker for 2.0/3.0 scholar but know it isn't coming back but I would like to see Aetherflow being used outside of combat that would be my one wish based on the current kit. I can live with all the rest even fey union and dissipation if I had to or just simply generate aetherflow stacks every 20 seconds like Sage.

Does Sacred soil and then dumping expediate sort of stack? one states only suffering from 90% of damage inflicted and the other reduces damage taken by 10% sort of equals a 20% save if i just stand still? I may not be reading that right?

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No cause then we go back to prepull aetherflow which was terrible and a whole raiding thing for rotations openers

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Originally Posted by Awarewolf

New Ability: Fae Vengeance, uses the fairy gauge to cause AoE damage around your fairy. Could be interesting strategy to manually place the fairy in a melee pack and use the gauge to either heal or harm.

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Would prefer not to enforce having to place the fairy. It should just auto go to what your targeting. Placing fairy is such an annoying feature I never use that shit.

I like Dissipation, Fey Union, and Seraph. I may be the only one but I enjoy that Scholar has an actual healing rotation. WHM and Astro can blow every cooldown they have at once because it's all cohesive for them. They increase their potency and burst heal and then wonder why they have no cool downs left 30 seconds later. Scholar has conflicting design to some, but it always has enough healing for every situation. You start a pull with Whispering Dawn and three charges of Aetherflow and a prepull Adlo. This carries you thru until your Aetherflow runs out and then you use Fey Illumination to boost your spell power and reduce damage mildly before using Dissipation. Now you have three more charges of Aetherflow and incredibly potent shields while your fairy is gone. The cool down on Aetherflow is coming up soon and your fairy returns before Whispering Dawn is even available. You didn't lose anything with your fairy gone except the fear that your tank would die. You never stopped pressing Art of War and everyone is impressed you did so much damage while managing a ton of healing and dodging aoes.

The entire lore behind Scholar is a battle tactician and the fact other healers are easier doesn't make me envious. Scholar feels really good to plan ahead with. Picking a heal at random with WHM becuase every single one works doesn't bring me any kind of joy. Astro having an incredibly powerful oGCD available every 20 seconds doesn't make me feel like a good healer. I don't like spamming one dps button because it's mindless and having 30 heals that all do the same thing is only slightly less mindless. Scholar still has some thought required for healing and now that the dps actions and Selene skills are gone for good I don't want to lose the few intricacies of the healing kit. I enjoy using Fey Union and Whispering Dawn together. Scholar layers one skill after another together in this beautiful tapestry of healing that encourages you to learn how to play it properly. It forces you to manage your MP enconomy and without any speed boost like Lightspeed or Presence of Mind you realize the game gives you a lot of time to hardcast a revive. Healing extremely well within the confines of the Scholar kit is engaging to me. I can force mechanics to be survivable with crit shields and multiple damage reductions. It's a bonkers class, but I dont want it to become anything more similar to WHM. We already got WHM with cards and mobility. I dont want WHM with a fairy to be next.

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Originally Posted by Awarewolf

New Ability: Fae Vengeance, uses the fairy gauge to cause AoE damage around your fairy. Could be interesting strategy to manually place the fairy in a melee pack and use the gauge to either heal or harm.

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While interesting the problem of a skill like that is that would capitalize the gauge to only dps as every tick of fey union would become a dps loss

If we want to talk about things on Scholar that can be fixed and not even change anything dramatically about the job currently...

Why do Eos and Selene still have a cast time in Endwalker? What's the logic behind this? If the developers want to make healers less punishing; Scholar loses the entirety of it's oGCD healing kit upon dying. How is that not needlessly punishing for mistakes?
While I do think Scholar should reward thinking ahead and skilled play, it shouldn't be to the point where you're locked out of performing your job. The other healers only need to worry about getting MP back; Scholar has to press Lucid, stand still for 2.44 seconds in battle recasting it's faerie, and wait for upwards of 60 seconds to get Aetherflow back unless you use Dissipation to eat your fairy that you just stood still to cast. If an Arcanist can instantly summon it's Carbuncle, why isn't the well educated "Scholar" able to figure that equation out for his new gig?

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Originally Posted by Nizzi

If we want to talk about things on Scholar that can be fixed and not even change anything dramatically about the job currently...

Why do Eos and Selene still have a cast time in Endwalker? What's the logic behind this? If the developers want to make healers less punishing; Scholar loses the entirety of it's oGCD healing kit upon dying. How is that not needlessly punishing for mistakes?
While I do think Scholar should reward thinking ahead and skilled play, it shouldn't be to the point where you're locked out of performing your job. The other healers only need to worry about getting MP back; Scholar has to press Lucid, stand still for 2.44 seconds in battle recasting it's faerie, and wait for upwards of 60 seconds to get Aetherflow back unless you use Dissipation to eat your fairy that you just stood still to cast. If an Arcanist can instantly summon it's Carbuncle, why isn't the well educated "Scholar" able to figure that equation out for his new gig?

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I'd say it's because the animation is neat, they don't want to throw it away.
And yes ; AF on CD when you raise is annoying.

In all fairness this is the problem with healers

Currently I do like that they are finally splitting them up into shield healer and pure healer, so I expect more changes to happen to balance these roles together

The problem I see on the scholar side is often people keep "pushing" to further their "healing" role, when in fact I think scholar needs to be pushed more on its "shielding" factor and support to the "pure healer"


All scholar skills works as intended and require u to "think" with Ur co healer and map our Ur skills to beat the boss, with minimum effort in the healing aspect

Scholar provides a STRONG kit to the other healer in the party and is the king for being the secondary healer that is legit unmatched, which people keep forgetting

Scholar provides soo much

Fey illumination (increase healing + damage reduction)

Sacred soil (regen + damage reduction, cost 1 aether)

Whispering dawn (no mp cost just a cd)

Indom (no mp cost, cost 1 aether)

Lustrate x3 (no mp cost and cost 1 aether)

Chain strategem (damage buff for the entire party)

Now with endwalker coming they now have even more skills to support their co healer

New buff ( increase max hp, and heals them)
New AoE buff (increase movement speed + damage reduction last 20sec.....this skill is soo broken it's going to get nerf it last longer then normal sprint since that got nerf to 10sec whilst in combat)


So yeah I kinda expect some nerfs heading towards scholar and astrologian in endwalker because they have TOO much utility in their kit so I can already see a few nerfs coming to these jobs in endwalker