Ableism and elitism from the hardcore community is damaging FF14

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Originally Posted by Holystyle

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This.

You won't believe how many times this has been suggested to the Devs

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

I respect you as a person and I dont know you from anyone else on the planet. you deserve decency and civility.

that is basic common respect, which seems to be as lacking as common sense.

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I dunno why people act like they're the Godfather lol.
You can't have a functioning society where there isn't a base level of respect shown to people by default.

It kinda reeks of narcissism too imo to expect people to have to earn your respect like what makes you so important that people need to '' earn '' it?
Respect is something you should just have as a default, it's not something to earn it's something to lose.

I get the feeling that this is like 4 or 5 Titanmen alts arguing with one another with a few normal forum goers mixed into the mess.

I don't see a problem with this.


We have rules set to protect players from these types of players. Also, these players have tools to make like minded groups of players to play with, and can go to discord and say whatever they want. Treat each other how they want, and play and enjoy the game how they want.


If it leaks over to pug settings. Well report them and put these players in their place.


I see no problems with how things are done now? These elitist players belong in the game, and can enjoy the game how they want, as long as it does not leak over into the casual parts of the game.

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

I dunno why people act like they're the Godfather lol.
You can't have a functioning society where there isn't a base level of respect shown to people by default.

It kinda reeks of narcissism too imo to expect people to have to earn your respect like what makes you so important that people need to '' earn '' it?
Respect is something you should just have as a default, it's not something to earn it's something to lose.

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I agree. I mean you dont have to like everyone, you dont have to treat them like they are special, but you should respect them as a person, especially if they have done nothing to show that they are not worth your time. even as a person who isnt worth the time, they should still be on the receiving end of respect as a person with different opinions. as they say, even trolls need people, and they are in a constant search for validation and affection, friends even, they just have different ways of going about it.

I dont know, I do think that what is lacking in many ways on the internet is that base recognition of 'yes, you are a person, and I can respect you as a person even though we are different'. seems more along the lines of 'you aint me, therefore, you are an idiot and havent earned my respect'.

the problem with the latter position is, they seem to forget... what have they done to earn mine or anyone else's?

Why on earth should I take someone like that? There is nothing anywhere that says I cannot choose my team for high level content. It's not ableism. Get better and people will bring you. Or make your own team

I report jerks, don't be a jerk. It's really that easy.

You guys bit the bait real well. GOOD JOB. This is a typical bait thread by TitanMen's alt accounts.

Any harder content will have a more "toxic" behavior from their lovers...this is natural, just look at MOBAs and competitive E-Sport scenario in general.
The question is: should a company build their game based on a niche of their population? absolutely not. So i don't care.
This isn't damaging FFXIV...you just want some attention, here, take it.

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Originally Posted by Breezelyn

You guys bit the bait real well. GOOD JOB. This is a typical bait thread by TitanMen's alt accounts.

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It's not one of his alts, or supposed alts every time it's a troll.

Please stop thinking we only have one forum troll here. You're giving these forums too much credit.