Major changes needed for housing

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Originally Posted by Awha

That is the thing though people are willing to do that just to come after the small group of players that have many houses. Which is weird to me. Especially since those who have multiple plots are operating within in allowed system presented by SE.

The sad reality is any tax, fee, change to relocation will simply impacted the general player base far more then any change aimed towards reigning in those who have excess.

People truly underestimate the lengths people will go to maintain their current standard of living and overestimate how prevalent this issue really is, and how hard it currently is to break into said market and do this.

Though I will say if SE is in a tight spot cause yes people like myself are greedy but people throw that around like it is inherently wrong or those that have care what people think of their actions. Like the GC idea would make it impossible for me to maintain all my plots that is for certain only at the obscene amount. I doubt most general players would look forward to having to farm GC seals just to keep their FC which is mostly the only action that could in practice make owning multiple plots impossible. Though can we say for certain it would not negatively impact the general player base.

On a side note I think SE needs to pick a stance on housing do they want it be to be finite resources that is meant to be scarce or do they want it to be viable for everyone.

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Originally Posted by linayar

What exactly did they lift? The personal part or FC part or both? As far as I'm aware, you still can only own 1 house on one world per account.

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Sorry reached my post limit before. Though when the restriction was placed it caused issues with FC and plots. So I think it was a patch or two later they removed that restriction regarding 1 personal and 1 FC now you can have 1 personal and 8 FC. Though I stopped playing around SB I just recently came back and have picked up numerous FC plots with the help of friends we are going to try and relocate to a same ward come 6.1 so we can make a small community.

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Originally Posted by Awha

Sorry reached my post limit before. Though when the restriction was placed it caused issues with FC and plots. So I think it was a patch or two later they removed that restriction regarding 1 personal and 1 FC now you can have 1 personal and 8 FC. Though I stopped playing around SB I just recently came back and have picked up numerous FC plots with the help of friends we are going to try and relocate to a same ward come 6.1 so we can make a small community.

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Do you mean you can personally purchase 8 FC houses in the same world on 8 characters in the same service account?

Or do you mean you can own 8 FC houses via transference of FC leadership that comes with a house each?

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Originally Posted by linayar

Do you mean you can personally purchase 8 FC houses in the same world on 8 characters in the same service account?

Or do you mean you can own 8 FC houses via transference of FC leadership that comes with a house each?

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I did buy two during the mass demo timer drop a month or so ago after they enabled the timer. The other six I bought off reddit. From what I have been told by that community the fc restrictions regarding transferring was the loop hole that was used when it was in place though as it stands now you can buy multiple fc plots per character.

Though I have seen conflicting info regarding. I was unable to try and buy all 8 just due to the lack of supply though I will be trying come 6.1 since I have been using road to 70 to level toons on other accounts for that reason.

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Originally Posted by linayar

Do you mean you can personally purchase 8 FC houses in the same world on 8 characters in the same service account?

Or do you mean you can own 8 FC houses via transference of FC leadership that comes with a house each?

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He used the loophole and got 7 additional fcs using alts on the same world and most likely his friends did too

My head hurts (figuratively speaking).

I am so glad that I no longer care to own a house, though I did enjoy my small house on Shirogane for the time that I had it.

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Originally Posted by VirusOnline

Honestly, this would be adding more complexity to an already annoying system.

Make it simple. 1 house per account. Simple.

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There is some that is more equal than others in this game then, there is the group that has been grandfathered.

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Originally Posted by Awha

That is the thing though people are willing to do that just to come after the small group of players that have many houses. Which is weird to me. Especially since those who have multiple plots are operating within in allowed system presented by SE.

The sad reality is any tax, fee, change to relocation will simply impacted the general player base far more then any change aimed towards reigning in those who have excess.

People truly underestimate the lengths people will go to maintain their current standard of living and overestimate how prevalent this issue really is, and how hard it currently is to break into said market and do this.

Though I will say if SE is in a tight spot cause yes people like myself are greedy but people throw that around like it is inherently wrong or those that have care what people think of their actions. Like the GC idea would make it impossible for me to maintain all my plots that is for certain only at the obscene amount. I doubt most general players would look forward to having to farm GC seals just to keep their FC which is mostly the only action that could in practice make owning multiple plots impossible. Though can we say for certain it would not negatively impact the general player base.

On a side note I think SE needs to pick a stance on housing do they want it be to be finite resources that is meant to be scarce or do they want it to be viable for everyone.

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Its weird to me as well, I am not in agreement with people taking advantage of the system. I have spent more then my share of time trying to think up solutions and find most have loop holes that can be exploited heavily.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Well technically there is no owner of a FC it's owned by the members. It's not like a private estate.

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Maybe it should be like a private estate. This would solve the issue of people having 1 FC house and 1 private house on the same character, and also the issue where people transfer FC leadership to bypass housing restrictions.

Just allow players to link one private house to an fc and let members use it according to their rank and refresh its demolish timer. Should the player leave or get kicked, someone else can link their house to the fc. Also limit ownership to one house per account.

No, leave housing alone

All of the drama over housing is deliberately caused by the devs, which they could have easily avoided by just copying Everquest2's housing, that existed almost a decade before this game: https://eq2.zam.com/wiki/Housing_%28EQ2%29

Which is not only a lot more useful, but a lot prettier. New players get an apartment for free.

If I wanted a nice house in a game, I'd go back to EQ2. But I don't. I've got the best guild hall (fortress on an island so large that I get lost in it, including an underground cave with boat dock), and nearly unlimited mansions in EQ2 (ok, so just 20, but more than I can keep up with).

My point is that I believe the devs have caused this problem intentionally, because I don't think they are stupid, not by a long shot.

Edited Note: Probably money and time sinks, and forcing you to subscribe to keep it, while EQ2 did not, last time I played. But not something that works on me, considering the lack of benefits vs. cost and if I were into decorating, which I'm not, I've played better games for that.