Is a relic worth it?

200 tomestones of the disposable kind to get ilvl 500, an easier and more powerful weapon than you can get in many other places.

Sure, go do the first step. Anything after that is personal choice.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

It's extremely future proofed from what I've seen. You can get most of the memories you need quite quickly in the BSF which has NPCs fight with you in fates, or alternatively by doing open world fates, dungeons and alliance raids, which are easy to do thanks to the duty finder. I've been in BSF alone for 3 hours before just farming fates and mobs on my own to get what I need, so all the fates scaled to 1 person.

If any of the steps are not achievable in the future I'm sure they will make that possible, like they did with previous relics that were made significantly easier.

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The problem is the raids. People are struggling to get through Castrum Lacus Litore now, never mind down the line when fewer and fewer people will be in Bozja at all. Delubrum Reginae is also going to be a bottleneck later, for similar reasons. Short of nerfing both straight into the ground or making the rewards completely absurd, they're going to be a massive struggle for anyone who isn't already working on it.

If you want to do it, do it, if you don’t, dont. But why are you playing the game if you don’t at least do one, to experience the story and content?

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Amen to that.

The fate RNG is horrendous for step 2 but considering playtime better than doing 36 raids. It's quite a sore spot for me atm because i have numerous alts and have to suffer through this step multiple times. And yes relic is worth it to me. I've done all of them and in spite of the haters I loved Eureka. Not being able to do all of the relic in zone is bad in my view and should actually be easier to finish there than some of the current metrics that make it easier to do outside.

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It will forever baffle me what they were aiming to achieve with Shadowbringers' relic. It still forced people into Bozja who, otherwise, had zero interest in the content. While also forcing people who liked Bozja out of it to grind boring FATEs and CT. Basically, all they did is piss off both sides without addressing the actual complaint from Eureka. C

ome 6.0, just let people have an entirely separate step ala the Zodiac/Anima and make the new Bozja primary option. That way, everybody wins.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

It will forever baffle me what they were aiming to achieve with Shadowbringers' relic. It still forced people into Bozja who, otherwise, had zero interest in the content. While also forcing people who liked Bozja out of it to grind boring FATEs and CT.

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I thought it was always possible in Bozja without doing FATEs and CT. People just did FATEs and CT because they like doing old content instead.

Glamour is the only long-term reason. Look up videos of what completed weapons look like, and make your calls from there.

Everything in this game is temporary, otherwise we'd be playing those "desert" games where you can go hours without interacting with anyone such as blade and soul, bdo, and wakfu.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

I thought it was always possible in Bozja without doing FATEs and CT. People just did FATEs and CT because they like doing old content instead.

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For the i485 step, you could technically farm for the Memories (Untouched, Sorrowful and Hallowing) through Skirmishes and CEs, but the drop rates were low. Whereas they were guaranteed to drop from Heavensward FATEs. This made the latter far, far more efficient, especially with Blue Mage.

With the current step, you can only acquire Haunting and Vexatious memories from HW alliance raids/Gyr Abania FATEs and SB alliance raids/Far East FATEs, respectively. There's no way to progress this step inside Bozja, though you are only required to do it once.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

With the current step, you can only acquire Haunting and Vexatious memories from HW alliance raids/Gyr Abania FATEs and SB alliance raids/Far East FATEs, respectively. There's no way to progress this step inside Bozja, though you are only required to do it once.

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That does seem strange and would have made more sense to also get them from the new content such as DR.

If previous expansions were any indication, then when Endwalker releases, relics will almost instantly be outranked. Given that we are at the end of Shadowbringers, there won't be much more gear elevation.

If you want it for glamour, go for it. They aren't by any means difficult to get, just super grindy.