Why is the next new job a melee DPS?

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Originally Posted by SavishSalacious

These are facts. I wont deny that and I do have a tank. But I refuse to level him any further with the toxicity around "get gud". Let me learn and not be forced to do wall to wall because you are in a rush.

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Tanking outside hard fights is easy as hell. You just turn the tank stance on, rotate your defensive cooldowns and make sure you're geared properly. Other than that it's literally a DPS with tank on/off button.
For most light-party bosses and even some of the trials tanks don't even have to deal with as many mechanics as DPS or Healer do. Just face boss away from group and turn stance off when you stack 3 debuffs for the swap...

"Tanxiety" is flat out ridiculous and only evidence a lot of DPS don't play that well considering DPS have more reasons to be stressed than tanks do.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

We're in Shadowbringers now.

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The context of my story is within Stormblood's time period, but even in the current one, I wouldn't force a Ninja out to a ranged slot unless the comp was 3+ melee. Auto attack losses are nothing to sneeze at.

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Originally Posted by Vyrerus

The context of my story is within Stormblood's time period, but even in the current one, I wouldn't force a Ninja out to a ranged slot unless the comp was 3+ melee. Auto attack losses are nothing to sneeze at.

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Again, everyone should be in melee range anyway, except for the very specific mechanics that require a ranged position.
Losing 2 auto attacks is inconsequential.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

Again, everyone should be in melee range anyway, except for the very specific mechanics that require a ranged position.
Losing 2 auto attacks is inconsequential.

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It depends on the fight, and it's usually ill-advised for casters to try being in melee range full time, because of melee-centric aoes. I don't know what point you think you're making, but I think you've lost the plot.

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Originally Posted by Vyrerus

It depends on the fight, and it's usually ill-advised for casters to try being in melee range full time, because of melee-centric aoes. I don't know what point you think you're making, but I think you've lost the plot.

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I'm arguing that NIN and RDM can fill in for their opposite role positions in the party make-up, making it more of a suggestion than a hard and fast rule.

Quite simple:

SE designed themselves into a corner, as always.

They did so when they made Ninja a dex based melee job and still have DRG as a medium armor melee job.

So now you have two jobs who don't share armor with anyone else, yet share accessories with other jobs.

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Originally Posted by Vyrerus

It depends on the fight, and it's usually ill-advised for casters to try being in melee range full time, because of melee-centric aoes. I don't know what point you think you're making, but I think you've lost the plot.

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Except they're right. When ranged spread out to the edge of the arena they become out of healers aoe healing ranges and boss aoe hits the entire arena.

Which causes healers to have to spend GCD's they might not have healing onsies and twosies who decided that being far away out weight simply being a little closer so they'd get hit with the healer AOE.