Lets all take a deep breath

I like my dps aspects as an AST. No very big on the scale but I like always doing something.

I would play Whm if I only wanted to heal. I hope they don't take all of our actions away. AST is my favorite class.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

And shields are used as little as possible because they're just not that effective and they have been nerfed into the ground. Outside of crit situations at most gear levels a single target shield is ~10% of a tank's HP and an aoe shield is ~5-8% of a tank's HP

Also, they generally involve overhealing. If you know an AoE is coming and everyone is topped up, shielding beforehand involves half of the healing being pointless overheal.

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Watch them give all the shield heals the Blue Mage's Gobskin treatment. Gobskin doesn't heal HP it just puts a barrier up. Scholar's Emergency Tactics would likely gain multiple charges to compensate for that change. And, presumably, Sage would get an "Emergency Tactics" clone. Sage/Scholar duo would be deterred because their direct healing gcds would be gated behind Emergency Tactics and it's presumed clone.

Which makes me wonder if they're going to be able to even achieve any semblance of balance with the healers even with their plans of splitting WHM and AST into "pure healer" and Sage and Scholar into "barrier". Since I assume Sage/Scholar won't work well together if shields are still unable to stack but regens can meaning WHM/AST can possibly still work together and potentially be the go to healer combination. We can assume, because they probably won't spend the money to rework preexisting content, they won't be changing up anything as each possible healer combination needs to be able to clear content.

Which also brings into question if duty finder, for 8+ party member content, will require one pure healer and one barrier healer or remain as it is now. And if it remains as it is now then each possible healer combination needs to be able to clear content and that would mean Sage/Scholar needs to be able to function together. And brings us back full circle on whether or not healer balance will be achieved.

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Originally Posted by Cithaerias_pyropina

Watch them give all the shield heals the Blue Mage's Gobskin treatment. Gobskin doesn't heal HP it just puts a barrier up. Scholar's Emergency Tactics would likely gain multiple charges to compensate for that change. And, presumably, Sage would get an "Emergency Tactics" clone. Sage/Scholar duo would be deterred because their direct healing gcds would be gated behind Emergency Tactics and it's presumed clone.

Which makes me wonder if they're going to be able to even achieve any semblance of balance with the healers even with their plans of splitting WHM and AST into "pure healer" and Sage and Scholar into "barrier". Since I assume Sage/Scholar won't work well together if shields are still unable to stack but regens can meaning WHM/AST can possibly still work together and potentially be the go to healer combination. We can assume, because they probably won't spend the money to rework preexisting content, they won't be changing up anything as each possible healer combination needs to be able to clear content.

Which also brings into question if duty finder, for 8+ party member content, will require one pure healer and one barrier healer or remain as it is now. And if it remains as it is now then each possible healer combination needs to be able to clear content and that would mean Sage/Scholar needs to be able to function together. And brings us back full circle on whether or not healer balance will be achieved.

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You hit the nail on the head, this is likely exactly what they'll do, or some form of it. They have zero understanding of how all their plans work in the wild because they never test it; they ask for feedback and then ignore the ever loving s**t out of it.

We all know 6.0 is going to effectively permanently kill the role for veteran healers. I think I'm just having trouble mentally preparing myself for when they make it even worse.

They need to hire more people for the battle team, period. I don't care about this "difficult to train them" crap anymore; it has been shown that 3 people are just not enough, nor should it have ever been enough.

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Originally Posted by FoxCh40s

they ask for feedback and then ignore the ever loving s**t out of it.

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More to the point, feedback seems to be ignored if it comes from a certain part of the community.

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Originally Posted by MintnHoney

More to the point, feedback seems to be ignored if it comes from a certain part of the community.

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God, preach.

I have been playing Conurer/WHM since Alpha phase of ARR and I do not like what they done to WHM. Oh wait , hate is a better description of my feeling .
So ,I have no faith in the developers handling of healers , none.

They will get no benefit of any doubt i might have and as things stand now there is no way I will even consider getting this expansion.

Unless , of course, a certain npc gets killed of, but that is a point in a different thread.