What concerns me is reading that it's solo content and there will be _some_ communication. Am I misunderstanding that this Island Sanctuary is not really aimed at being group content and you'd be pursuing something alone?
Because if that's the case -- though I really ♥ the idea of lower-stress content aimed at non-raiding players (not everyone has the time/reflexes/connection/ability to play uninterrupted) -- the primary appeal to me for any content is the ability to SHARE it with other people. It's an MMO! I want to invite people to play WITH me who have a range of interests -- and not everyone I'd want to spend time with here would be interested in raiding. Being able to share goals is, I feel, very important to building relationships and community. Adding content that you /can/ do alone is fine. There are single-person FCs out there. But I very very much want cooperative content, so that in pursuing this new thing, I can do it WITH my friends.
Diadem feels cut off with the way it's done. I don't understand why I shouldn't be able to open up my linkshell or FC windows to manage things while I'm doing stuff in there. I really don't want to see the same thing with this content. If it's a fundamental coding thing, I can accept that--but I think it hurts some core elements of FFXIV as a gaming community.
It's one of the main appeals I find in the Ishgardian Restoration FATES--shared time, even though it feels like more like primordial soup time. Otherwise crafting/gathering feels very siloed unless I'm helping friends HQ something they don't have the stats/levels to hit or lending materials. Workshops are now solo--which in many ways is a good thing--but it does prettymuch negate the reason for sharing time as crafters, especially if you're an omnicrafter.
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02-07-2021, 04:29 PMKatCnaa
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02-07-2021, 04:45 PMStriderShinryu
It seems like this grew out of a couple of different things they've touched on in the past. They've mentioned a farm/planter style system for those who can only get an apartment instead of a house. They've also mentioned some way to bring out multiple minions and have them walk around and maybe interact with each other. So, at minimum, it should basically be a combination of both of those.
Beyond that? I'm honestly not expecting much. I'd love if it at least had some sort of growth and customization. I don't need to have a house of my own on the farm as I do have a small of my own in the wards but it would still be nice to choose what my farm looks like, where things go, what theme it uses, etc. If it's just a "You're at Farm Level 4! Your Farm now looks like this (which is the same as everyone else's farm at Level 4)!" then it will be a let down. -
02-07-2021, 05:03 PMKatCnaa
I think it would be neat if it was a little like the chocobo stables in housing. But what if we could train our minions/chocobos to have new actions? Mounted emotes or respond to /pet in new ways? or /doubt?
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02-07-2021, 06:47 PMPacketdancerIf the island is instanced, and can be visited by your friends... then honestly, it seems like if it's not going to be instanced housing at launch, it could still be the foundation for instanced housing down the road. Then the legacy wards could be left in place for those who have houses (or want the neighborhood feel), while those who are content to have their own little farm they can develop and decorate (and engage with the housing system on) off on their own island won't have to skirmish for the housing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enla
But if it's instanced and cannot be visited -- like inn rooms, grand company squadron barracks, etc. -- then I suspect people will be disappointed because a lot of folks who want to do housing want to be able to then show that housing off, have people come over, etc.
Honestly, as the gardener for my FC... I would be thrilled. Then I could grow things other than onions and chocobo food more regularly!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jennah
New abilities for Verminion! (That... is still a thing, in theory, right?)Quote:
Originally Posted by KatCnaa
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02-07-2021, 08:54 PMAlleo
I really hope that this is great and has long living content behind it because I love relaxing stuff like that. I never understood how we could not breed and raise our own racing chocobo and I was always sad that I never got to see more than one pet at a time.
So my hopes are:
- Personal instance for everyone so that its bascially personal instanced housing but with an island
- being able to sink a lot of time in raising at least chocobos. It should not be just one click. You should have some cute mini games to train it and maybe be able to feed it with your own veggies.
- seeing a nice amount of pets that are going around the island with their own set of actions
- being able to plant lots of stuff
What I would wish on top of that
- a little cottage so that people finally can own their own little house
- more animals to raise other than chocobos
- it being more than just clicking on stuff and having a timer running
I will wait for more information though before I get myself too hyped up..SE has a very bad record in hinting at new content and the real thing not living up to my ideas.
My biggest fear is, that its another public map with restricted plots for housing, and restricted options in general because too much would blow it up if more than one person uses it... -
02-07-2021, 10:47 PMYubelchen
I just hope our companion Chocobo can chill on the Island as well, after all adventures we had and now getting your chocobo being a requiered thing i really hope therte is something for our feather friend as well.
Let him help till the soil, play with the chocobo minions, take a nap under a tree, run up to you to see what you are up to...
I am just extremly in love with our chocobo and they should get something nice too besides coloring, gear and fighting with us ;_;
My biggest fear would be as well that its just like housing area and a crowded mess of islands.
Instead i would love it being just a lone island in the middle of nowhere but you can chat with people you dont see (kinda yell chat in diadem? but as a seperated thing you can turn off) and maybe visit thier islands but just to look and hang out together. (like with your apartment/house) -
02-07-2021, 11:26 PMBarwara
I would like it to be something like the apartment. Instanced, but your friends can visit. Everything there is for you to use and you don't have to compete with other players to grab certain things... Ideally, with the option of adding your own instanced house. :)
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02-08-2021, 12:56 AMSavagelf
you raise beast for beast master this work well for beast master. as i said before. it interesting aproach of expand on idea kind like the garrison on wow but i think SE will keep work on it. it be alittle like sandbox but it should be something FC can work on together. also it should be allow us to use are sub and airship to explore and building on
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02-08-2021, 02:54 AMKatCnaaI really, really, really want to see more shared non-combat content. FC shared content would be fantastic!Quote:
Originally Posted by Savagelf
There are a lot of people who are playing over a long period of time--and life events come up. You may not be able to do as much combat-wise, but you still want to DO things with your friends. People have medical conditions like strokes, or have kids, or have lag issues. Being able to do other things would also allow us to invite friends who aren't combat-oriented to the game and have a reasonable array of things to do WITH them. -
02-08-2021, 05:59 AMRenik
From the ffxiv subreddit discord:
oroginal: http://ff14net.2chblog.jp/archives/57680177.html
credit to iluna minori who posted it in discord.
■無人島開拓について
Regarding Island Sanctuary
・今回は“スローライフ”がコンセプトなので他人と競い合うみたいなことは極力なくすようにしている
The concept behind the content is to provide players with a more "slow life" (relaxing) feel so they are making sure any elements of competing with other players is avoided
・他人との交流はゼロではないが、基本は1人でやっていくコンテンツ
You will still retain some form of communication with other players, but the content itself is largely solo
・貿易も自分が開拓した無人島の中で、特産物を植えたり育てたものをゲーム内のシステム内の流注と対話をしてギルを稼いでいく遊び
Trading within Island Sanctuary and earning gil can be done by planting and growing specialities that you have cultivated, as well as interacting with the features in this game.
・貿易は興味がないから育てるだけで楽しいという遊び方でも損はしない作り
They will make it so that even if you're not interested in trading but only want to do it just to grow crops, or specialities can also do so without facing through any loss/penalties.
・お気に入りのミニオンをめでたり連れてきた動物を育てるだけでもいい
You are free to admire the minions you love and brought into, or just have fun growing animals you brought into Island Sanctuary.