Can we bring Thief back into the fold?

All I have to say about this is

THATS IT!

I've come up with a new recipeh!

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

A. doesnt matter broken or not
b: speed doesnt matter either

--- the only thing that matters was it was A REAL FINAL FANTASY-- nothing else matters but that

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A) yes it does. No one wants to be a leperclass that is literally unplayable because of developer incompetance. Looking at you XI DRG
B) It does if you want what should be a 5 min activity not take an hour.

So FF4 wasn't a real final fantasy because it added ATB instead of being strickly turn based.

I can do this all day by the way.

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Originally Posted by Razard

A) yes it does. No one wants to be a leperclass that is literally unplayable because of developer incompetance. Looking at you XI DRG
B) It does if you want what should be a 5 min activity not take an hour.

So FF4 wasn't a real final fantasy because it added ATB instead of being strickly turn based.

I can do this all day by the way.

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many ffs dont have atb bar but are still ffs cuz steal/summons/abilitys were actrually done right to how they are suppose to be in ff.

A; sure we do, cuz its PVE balance doesnt matter in pve... we are against monsters just make the ai have a brain and make real complex fights.
b: nop it doesnt everything should take us hours and weeks and months to do

I've yet to see anything posted by LolitaBansheeMeru post anything that isn't totally unreasonable nonsense, but the cherry has to be where they said Ninja was "too weeb" when they have that name...

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

I've yet to see anything posted by LolitaBansheeMeru post anything that isn't totally unreasonable nonsense, but the cherry has to be where they said Ninja was "too weeb" when they have that name...

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its perfectly reasonable if ur not WoW trash fan... it works in other ffs including one that is also a mmo... things should be like they were back in 2010... with the high complexity special effect weapons and ya it should take a long time

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

I've yet to see anything posted by LolitaBansheeMeru post anything that isn't totally unreasonable nonsense, but the cherry has to be where they said Ninja was "too weeb" when they have that name...

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My favorite one was that we don't need another healer in the next expansion, personally.

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

its perfectly reasonable if ur not WoW trash fan... it works in other ffs including one that is also a mmo... things should be like they were back in 2010... with the high complexity special effect weapons and ya it should take a long time

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Name two post-2010 MMOs that meet your requirements.

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

Name two post-2010 MMOs that meet your requirements.

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post 2010 doesnt matter cuz after 2010 everything went to shit

but pre okay Dark age of camelot -eq and ffxi

after 2010 game makers for every game has really gone down hill and designing rlly bad I mean look at the summon limits on ff7 remake

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

many ffs dont have atb bar but are still ffs cuz steal/summons/abilitys were actrually done right to how they are suppose to be in ff.

A; sure we do, cuz its PVE balance doesnt matter in pve... we are against monsters just make the ai have a brain and make real complex fights.
b: nop it doesnt everything should take us hours and weeks and months to do

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FF1 doesn't have any of those abilitirs. Thus all others after are not Final Fantasies. This logic is so easy to decontruct it's not even funny.

Tell that to all the loldrgs that had to wait months to get into a party before immediately disbanding. But hey, pVe BaLeNcE iSnT a PrOblEM gUyZ.

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Originally Posted by Razard

FF1 doesn't have any of those abilitirs. Thus all others after are not Final Fantasies. This logic is so easy to decontruct it's not even funny.

Tell that to all the loldrgs that had to wait months to get into a party before immediately disbanding. But hey, pVe BaLeNcE iSnT a PrOblEM gUyZ.

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ffxi does have those abilitys lol did u ever play it u could steal summon real creatures and all that stuff lol .. and that brings me to the next point IT SHOULD BE OPEN world not dungeon wise also f1 didnt have alot so ff tatics-ff1-ff2-f3-ff4-ff5 for your thing after that ya it does until now.. also if it was open world LIKE FF IS SUPPOSE TO BE instead of dungon/q bs noone would rlly have a problem with pts

but honestly ya ffs need to return to atb bar to tbh .. the way it was before was perfect and unique.