Smoking emote.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

While I wouldn't be opposed to a smoking emote, I can personally see how smoking is seen as worse than drinking. Alcohol every so often is fine, but smoking is rarely seen as fine for your health even if done in very small amounts and infrequently.



They're referring to how it is in real life. People have gotten cancer from living with smokers or working in a place that allows smoking. And I suppose a smoke emote could be seen as endorsing such behaviour. Someone drinking next to you cannot affect your health.

That being said there is an ashtray furnishing with a lit cigar.

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I know they are referring to real life. But the person they responded to was talking about the drinking EMOTE not drinking irl. A drinking emote doesn't actually make us drunk nor would a smoking emote effect anyones health is what I'm saying.

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Originally Posted by Gula

I'd like this, but I know why it wouldn't be added.

There are children that play this game after all. T for Teen, but I consider teens children. Public health and wellness is taken differently in different countries and in the States, there are anti-smoking ads everywhere from billboards to radio. Glamorizing smoking is not good, and while not the intent- it's impressionable.

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Too late for that, smoking is already in the game.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

They're referring to how it is in real life. People have gotten cancer from living with smokers or working in a place that allows smoking. And I suppose a smoke emote could be seen as endorsing such behaviour. Someone drinking next to you cannot affect your health.

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We kill people by the thousands in this game, that's worse than cancer. Is killing thousands upon thousands an endorsement of mass murder? Sometimes killing people can affect your mental health, does that mean killing should be banned from this kid friendly game?

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Originally Posted by Edax

Too late for that, smoking is already in the game.


We kill people by the thousands in this game, that's worse than cancer. Is killing thousands upon thousands an endorsement of mass murder? Sometimes killing people can affect your mental health, does that mean killing should be banned from this kid friendly game?

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This^. Some people's inability to disconnect real life from this game is jarring. It's like me using the drinking emote, going into a dungeon and healing poorly, then blaming it on being drunk. Hell, with that logic we wouldn't even have a drinking emote in the first place because drinking in public is illegal.

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Originally Posted by Edax

We kill people by the thousands in this game, that's worse than cancer. Is killing thousands upon thousands an endorsement of mass murder? Sometimes killing people can affect your mental health, does that mean killing should be banned from this kid friendly game?

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Our characters kill out of necessity. Aside from something like medical marijuana no one smokes out of necessity. Smoking is typically a vice, not something a person must do to fight for their country, etc.

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Originally Posted by SweetestLily

This^. Some people's inability to disconnect real life from this game is jarring. It's like me using the drinking emote, going into a dungeon and healing poorly, then blaming it on being drunk. Hell, with that logic we wouldn't even have a drinking emote in the first place because drinking in public is illegal.

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I can disconnect from it, I even said I wouldn't mind such an emote. I just wanted to point out that allowing an emote like that come to the game could be seen as SE endorsing it. Though like I said earlier we already have an ashtray furnishing with a lit cigar. We're kind of halfway to the emote I guess.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

Our characters kill out of necessity. Aside from something like medical marijuana no one smokes out of necessity. Smoking is typically a vice, not something a person must do to fight for their country, etc.



I can disconnect from it, I even said I wouldn't mind such an emote. I just wanted to point out that allowing an emote like that come to the game could be seen as SE endorsing it. Though like I said earlier we already have an ashtray furnishing with a lit cigar. We're kind of halfway to the emote I guess.

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Necessity in what way? I know of people that simply cannot function with a vape pen or smoke in near by / take a hit often throughout the day. Just because something is a vice does not mean it cannot become a nescessity for a person.

Granted, I get where you are coming from.

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Originally Posted by Krojack

Main different is, I can be sitting next to someone drinking and it won't effect my health while sitting next to a smoker does.

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Being next to someone who is drinking can affect your life in many negative ways none of which are passive (unlike smoking).

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Originally Posted by ApolloGenX

Personally, I am not a fan.... others might disagree, but it is a very unhealthy habit that I consider disgusting.... and while this is not a real world, I do think that it could be "glamorizing" it for younger players. I'm not trying to judge, I was a smoker for many years.

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Perhaps, but i think if such a thing were made, this would be one of the few things that would actually be acceptable to put on the mogstation and charge extra for, so that only the most hardcore RPers would buy it. NPC's already have smoking emotes - I dont think excluding it from player control would really do much. SE gets away with it on NPCs because they never explicitly state what is being smoked.

I have an ashtray with a smoldering cigar in my house, which would seem to indicate my character smokes, so I'm for it.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

Our characters kill out of necessity.

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Yeah, right.
NPC: "You there! Go over to that boat, kill everyone there and burn their supplies. I'll give you a shiny sea shell for the deed"
WoL: *stoic nod*

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Originally Posted by Penthea

Our characters kill out of necessity. Aside from something like medical marijuana no one smokes out of necessity. Smoking is typically a vice, not something a person must do to fight for their country, etc.

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What necessity pray tell?
"Know that I'll kill your god if I have to. Maybe even if I don't."